Warming up the engine?

[phil24_7]

Wait until the temp gage spits out a figure before I ride it (I think 20-23 degrees C), don't use too many revs until 40 degrees or so and wont cane it or accelerate hard until it is up around the 70-80 degrees C.

Regards

Cheers Ralph, i'll keep an eye out for one!

On most carb bikes they say around 40-1min of full choke and then easy off to no choke before getting the revs above 6k.

I think you need to have one of these things atleast once and you'll know all about them when or if you buy a carbed bike.

E.g if you never ride in the snow and one day get cought out in the snow you'll s*it yourself becasue you won't know how to handle the situation. (<- if that makes sense)

If I were to buy a FI bike I'd still let it idle for about 40-1min just to let the oil sink and circulate before riding.

TBH, if you can afford the Bike, Insurance + Tax I'm pretty sure you can afford to lose 40p(Max) in fuel.

[yorkie_chris]

It's not about the fuel, it's about the best way to warm it up... which is by riding it gently. Only stand there warming it up until it will tick over by itself.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

It's not about the fuel, it's about the best way to warm it up... which is by riding it gently. Only stand there warming it up until it will tick over by itself.

Reason why I stated fuel in my first post was I read eailer on in the pages that someone moaned about losing fuel while it was ticking over. so I made a point about it.

Also, with the FI bike i'm sure you don't get a choke so either way id still let it idle for around 40-1min just so all the oil is running.

Originally Posted by AZZ3R

Also, with the FI bike i'm sure you don't get a choke so either way id still let it idle for around 40-1min just so all the oil is running.

Please can you explain why the oil would need 40 seconds to 'run', and where it is running to and from?

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by AZZ3R

Also, with the FI bike i'm sure you don't get a choke so either way id still let it idle for around 40-1min just so all the oil is running.

The SV doesn't have a choke either, it's got a cold start lever/idle enrichment.

Well if you think about what the "choke" on SV does (I'm guessing you don't know), it richens the mixture and opens a small passageway to let a little more air in.

Whereas an FI bike, obviously has no choke. It has a map which says it must add more fuel when cold, and operates the secondary throttle valve to press a lever on the main throttle cam to let more air in. The upshot being a faster, rich idle. Sound familiar?

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

The SV doesn't have a choke either, it's got a cold start lever/idle enrichment.

Yes the Curvy model does have a choke lever a cold/start lever is also known as a 'choke'. (Read The Manual) Let me quote something. "This Motorcycle has a choke system to provide easy starting when the engine is cold." (So yes it does have a choke)

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Well if you think about what the "choke" on SV does (I'm guessing you don't know), it richens the mixture and opens a small passageway to let a little more air in.

I'm 'Guessing' you don't know how to read I said nothing about the choke opening or closing a 'small passageway' so why you stated that I don't know. (I know how the choke works I've ridden a carbed 2T for 2years.)

Also your wrong, it doesn't allow more air to get in it reduces the air flow allowing more fuel to be burnt, thus making the engine fire quicker than usuall. ("Cold start")

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Whereas an FI bike, obviously has no choke. It has a map which says it must add more fuel when cold, and operates the secondary throttle valve to press a lever on the main throttle cam to let more air in. The upshot being a faster, rich idle. Sound familiar?

Also why your 're-quoting' me I don't know, I orignally said I'm sure the FI bike doesn't have a choke, why you call it a choke on the FI bike but not the carbed I have no idea. before replying read what I said.
(I'm not trying to sound arsy atall, just your putting it across to me asif you think I don't know, yet you don't know me atall, or anything on my biking knowlage for that matter.

Originally Posted by -Ralph-

Please can you explain why the oil would need 40 seconds to 'run', and where it is running to and from?

Ok I might be slightly exaggerating on the 40seconds, but it states in the manual " Allow suffucuent idling time after cold engine start to allow lubricating oil to reach all critical engine components" 'To me' thats more than 20seconds, Yes 40 seconds may be abit too much.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by AZZ3R

Also your wrong, it doesn't allow more air to get in it reduces the air flow allowing more fuel to be burnt, thus making the engine fire quicker than usuall. ("Cold start")

Have a look in an SV carb and come back to me on that one.

FI has no choke either, it has a fast idle and idle enrichment, which does exactly the same thing as the carb un.

How exactly would reducing air flow allow more fuel to be burnt?

I think we need a shovel.