Electric Vehicles

[Bibio]

Originally Posted by Luckypants

Seems like I'm the only person thinks EVs are good idea

no i do too but the infrastructure needs a lot more thought. one of the biggest problems holding the advancement is patents and to move forward they all need to be quashed.

[Luckypants]

Until a cheap way to produce hydrogen is developed fuel cell is a pipe dream. Norway, the leader in use of non-fossil cars has closed its hydrogen filling stations because they kept blowing up. If you think we have a problem with BEV charging stations, the problems building out hydrogen filling stations will be huge compared.

Can you tell me more about powdered hydrogen? I've never heard of it.

[Bibio]

its made by Johnson Matthey but not very well known about as the tech hit a brick wall due to nobody being interested as far as i know its patented.

[SV650rules]

https://www.gknpm.com/en/innovation/...logy/hy2green/

[Adam Ef]

Originally Posted by Luckypants

Seems like I'm the only person thinks EVs are good idea

I like the idea. I looked at cars recently to get an idea of what is about and what it's capable of when ours needs renewing, which will be soon. I'd love to have an electric car. Then I saw the prices. No way they're anywhere near affordable for us unfortunately.

[daktulos]

Originally Posted by Luckypants

There are options to have chargers integrated into street lamps now. They are installed quite widely in Liverpool, where I've seen them in use. These are on terraced streets. London is adopting them widely also. Not a complete solution but its a start. There is also work place charging and public rapid chargers, but granted not as convenient as home charging.

We currently have three lamp posts on my side of the street (and they're converted gas lamps). 28 houses, probably around 20 spaces. They'd still need to dig up the street to reach each space, and the power consumption would be massively more than street lamps need.

There's a difference between putting a few charging spots around lamp posts and *having* to power every parking space. I really can't see it working - I like the idea of electric cars, but I think they're a short-term fix.

This needs to be addressed and I think we should look to Norway and Denmark for ideas as they have much higher EV take up and many more folks living in apartment blocks etc.

They also have a lot more space!

[Dave20046]

Originally Posted by Luckypants

Seems like I'm the only person thinks EVs are good idea

No , I do. I just think we're a long way off and 2030 will be pushed back. As I've already said about fibre optic infrastructure still problematic, let's see how well we do though. I've had an irking feeling lately they should have spent more time entertaining the hydrogen route(or other) seeing as it's pretty much the same infrastructure as petrol stations and no charge times or lithium mining (though you've taught me something on that one). If it wasn't the requirement to depend on one, I'd consider one...but in my situation that'd be my beloved bike slot in the garage and not sure I can do that yet - I've not yet taken the leap to these modern 4 cylinder things. Maybe if I was someone hwo had a car but didn't use it for business. In the future I hope that changes.

That said - if Tesla could knock £40k off their RRP I'd buy one. I was just looking at second hand ones and I found one for £20k...that was spares or repair.

I have been youtubing it a bit as I know I'm not up on the latest. I was surprised the batteries don't degrade too fast (if looked after), guess I shouldn;t be at the price...it's a whole different kettle of c0cks to a iphone or laptop that I'm basing experience on. Fast charge does seem to be a nono still though. It's going to be the new 'one lady owner' - 'one laid back git who never needed to get anywhere quick'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHz-Kx5h_Tw

[Dave20046]

Originally Posted by Luckypants

There are options to have chargers integrated into street lamps now. They are installed quite widely in Liverpool, where I've seen them in use.

In liverpool those lamps also power the weed farm infrastructure

[shiftin_gear98]

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/nissan...-only-pictures

I think this is the way it'll go. And although I drive a Qashqui, I couldn't afford a new one.

[Dave20046]

Looks good. I'd heard BMW were primed to do something amazing last year but that doesn't appear to have pulled through. To be honest I was under the impression Tesla were the only ones worth entertaining ...but... price

Wonder if any forummers own any EV offering?