Police cause SV650 to crash...

[littleoldman2]

If I were either biker I don't think I would have made the two videos public without some good advice and where did the shots from behind the PC come from?. Perhaps I / we need to take a deeper look at the videos.

[Red Herring]

Originally Posted by suzukigt380paul

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

Careful mate, you're letting a whole profession down......

Originally Posted by Fordward

First bike had to do a full on emergency stop and handled it very well. The forks were on full compression and the front tyre was chattering on the tarmac as he came to a halt. Perhaps his bike had ABS.

Second bike if you look at his helmet cam couldn't see the copper walk out as his view was obscured by the first bike, the first bikes brake light wasn't that obvious because of the fog. At that speed he was probably looking past the first bike at the road ahead anyway. He had less time to react and his braking skills weren't up to scratch, but how many of us can honestly say we practice our emergency braking, know exactly what we can and can't do, and would have certainly have done a better job of it. He wasn't doing much more than 10 mph when he hit the back of the first bike so he wouldn't have been much more than a bikes length further in stopping.

Third bike could see the copper walk out and had a much greater distance to stop.

The copper is a complete KNOB and he's lucky the first bike didn't either bin it first or hit him.

Agree with this.

What exactly the muppet copper was thinking I have no idea. How he thought the correct way to pull a speeding biker (or any vehicle for that matter) was to step out in front of them I have no idea. If I was on the first bike having had to brake like that then get hit from behind i would be immensely not chuffed.

Basically the copper was the cause of the accident, same as anything pulling out onto the road in front of fast moving traffic causing said traffic to emergency brake would be. I can think of no argument to support that being a safe way to pull someone over...

[chris8886]

Originally Posted by littleoldman2

If I were either biker I don't think I would have made the two videos public without some good advice and where did the shots from behind the PC come from?. Perhaps I / we need to take a deeper look at the videos.

along my thoughts too when I first saw the video, it looks fairly fake to my highly untrained eye!!

Originally Posted by littleoldman2

where did the shots from behind the PC come from?.

If you look closely at around 20 seconds in, you can see two people standing behind the copper and a camera stand.

I personally think the copper was a total idiot. No justice was served. I feel bad for the first biker. Looks like the second bike took his left leg out and that must have hurt.

[littleoldman2]

Originally Posted by thulfi

If you look closely at around 20 seconds in, you can see two people standing behind the copper and a camera stand.

I personally think the copper was a total idiot. No justice was served. I feel bad for the first biker. Looks like the second bike took his left leg out and that must have hurt.

I know how it was filmed. What I cannot understand is why the police would allow it to go public yesterday when it was supposed to have happened so recently. The guy behind the PC must have been filming for the police or with their permission. So how did the poster of the vid get all three videos together. Seems a bit off to me

id say the police took his video and probable used it to blame the rider and probable do him for dangerous driving as well

Originally Posted by littleoldman2

I know how it was filmed. What I cannot understand is why the police would allow it to go public yesterday when it was supposed to have happened so recently. The guy behind the PC must have been filming for the police or with their permission. So how did the poster of the vid get all three videos together. Seems a bit off to me

Ah I get ya. Personally if I was either rider (particularly the first), I would have requested a copy of the police video as well as the other riders shot as well, so getting all 3 wouldn't be too much of an issue.

Although I don't know. Are the police legally obligated to provide video evidence of a crash you're involved in if they have it?

[BanannaMan]

Originally Posted by littleoldman2

I know how it was filmed. What I cannot understand is why the police would allow it to go public yesterday when it was supposed to have happened so recently. The guy behind the PC must have been filming for the police or with their permission. So how did the poster of the vid get all three videos together. Seems a bit off to me

In the US, Police can confiscate cameras if they are suspected to contain evidence. (which all these do)
Is it the same in the UK???
Still seems a bit off to me as well.




The copper was clearly the cause of the accident, stepping out in front of any speeding vehicle in the fog.
But 90mph in the fog? Really?
Two fools looking for an accident, the results were inevitable.
Shame the cause didn't get to experiance a wee bit of the results.

[yorkie_chris]

Kn*bhead pedestrians jumping out in front of traffic are a real hazard.

Originally Posted by Red Herring

Of course, Transit vans and such like are the worst offenders of the lot....

Oh aye, tell that to north yorks police and you'd be preaching to the choir, been stopping vans recently for doing 60 on NSL single carriagway.

Nice of them going after the scum of the earth worst offenders so we can all sleep easy in our beds eh.