136 miles of cash cropping

[Bibio]

i was wondering this myself but they say that the have a system for catching all vehicles inc motorcycles (if the cameras are forward facing then i cant see how). i dont know about the speed traps.

[munkygunn182]

If they're forward facing then I don't really see how they'd catch bikes. Also seems impractical to spend the monies fitting extra cameras to catch such a small percentage of the road users

[Bibio]

i have a feeling that they are going to be using all the redundant ones they have in storage from places like the M80, M74, M90 etc.etc upgrading they done a few years ago and if so then yipeeeeeeeee

[munkygunn182]

That'll do mate, that'll do!

Lovely idea lorries only driving at night, but who is going to stay at work to take the deliveries?

[DarrenSV650S]

The nightshift dooshbags?

[TamSV]

They seem to be using the "success" of the A77 scheme as justification. That's where you use a historically bad period to justify all the money you wasted.

It reduced deaths by 2 thirds, there's no doubt. 3 years before SPECS 3 people died. 3 years after 1 person died. Can't argue with the numbers eh? Don't stretch them out any further though, or else it might get a bit less convincing. You can prove what you like with statistically insignificant numbers.

Part of that stretch is a dual carriageway where, post SPECS, an unmarked traffic car caused a fatal at a junction doing 120mph. As a result the fatal accident enquiry concluded the road was really dangerous but this hadn't been noticed before due to the complete lack of accidents.

So the speed limit was reduced from 70mph to 50mph. A Transport Scotland review recently recommended 70 was fine but didn't want to contradict the existing safety measures. Since the new 50 limit was imposed no police officers have crashed at 120 so it must be a good thing.

500% increase in SPECS detected speeding offences since that limit was imposed. That's another measure of success for the system by the way. 5 times more people were caught speeding last year than were caught in the first year of SPECS.

Could someone check this? I've had a couple of pints. I must be making this up.

[Dipper]

Originally Posted by munkygunn182

Just thinking....isn't there some piece of legislation that says police speed traps are not allowed to operate in average speed zones?

Ie the A9's about to become a 2 wheeled expressway to the North?

**The more I look for this piece of info, the more I think I've made it up.

Unfortunately this is not the case unless Scottish Law is different on this. I got a ticket from a fixed fully hidden camera set up in an ASC zone, there are guidlines but at the end of the day the Police don't have to follow them if they feel it's in the public interest, this one was set up to deter speed at a local weekly summer bike meet.

[peterco]

Average speed camera sites



First installed camera

[andrewsmith]

They're front facing