Wire trap kills off roader

Originally Posted by Daimo

If you read the lad died from serious head injuries. Only hooligans (phrase with pinch of salt) would be the kind of people to be riding around on a bike with no lid, fast enough to hit a wire, and die of head injuries.

That's some seriously ignorant ******** right there.

[Red Herring]

I read a report that says the wire was put across the track to support a sign saying "private road" because motorcyclists riding illegally on the adjacent woodland kept turning in there, both of which tend to suggest that perhaps the lad shouldn't have been riding there. It also went on to say that the lads father found him after he didn't come home, which indicated he knew where to go and look for him.
What happened was tragic and i do feel for the family, but this is an accident that is waiting to happen again all over the country. Kids will be kids, that's why they have parents to look out for them.

[timwilky]

Talking with Ryans employers last night. they had been to see his mum yesterday and took them his last wage packet. Apparently the police have also interviewed the brother of the guy who admitted placing the wire as he was supposed to have helped him fit it.

Again they said that the farmer who owned the land allowed the local lads to ride that track. Other reports have said the wire was there to prevent access to a field. Not until the enquires are complete can the suppositions be turned in to fact.

Whoever did place it, probably never intended to harm any one. It is all to reminiscent of the lad who was killed hitting a chain on his bike on Bolton Wanderer car park

Originally Posted by timwilky

enquires are complete can the suppositions be turned in to fact.

Whoever did place it, probably never intended to harm any one. It is all to reminiscent of the lad who was killed hitting a chain on his bike on Bolton Wanderer car park

In the light of this, should the thread title not be changed as it is rather misleading and evokes a lot of anger that is perhaps misplaced?

Originally Posted by ging6996

you stupid t*at. no 1 deserves to die how would you like it if it was 1 of your kids.

show some respect!!!! he was in a field not on a public road with kids people etc.

graham

Its not though, so I have no respect. From what I have read, the lads in the blame too.

Quite frankly, im amused at the replies of some. Yes, its fine to ride a motorcycle without a skid lid. Clever thinking there people

Don't know them, don't really care, and i find it comical so many "dedicated" people defending someone they don't know and isn't even alive anymore. In fact, Tim is the only one who has any real connection in any way, yet he has not slandered me for having an opinion, mearly posting the facts he knows. But all those that don't even know the lad, well, its easy to fire insuls behined a keyboard I guess. I guess these people think its ok to ride without a lid too. No matter WHAT bike your on. My mini moto was only 5" off the floor and only done 25mph, should I have not weared a skid lid on that??? Its only small, slow, I mean, it doesn't break collar bones, skulls at all do they Get a grip some of you, wake up to smell the coffee.

I guess you all knew the lad well enoguh to make such valied opinions?

I am writing my opinon from what was written. Hard time reading it, then tough titties im afraid. Lifes full of hard times

Yes, I am a stupid "tw4t" for having my own opinion and not following the crowed Hmmmmmmm

Also, I wonder if you all would be so kind if this were an adult rider pulling a wheelie and being killed by someone/thing if the rider wasn't wearing a lid? No, you'd all flame them to hell for not having a lid. The fact this lad was young, and the death aided by other means, does not mean anything.

Young lad + fields + motorcycle + no protection = Acident waiting to happen, oh, it did, he paid the ultimate price.

I aint being nasty, im being real without suger coating and heavenly angle topping another motorcycle death like some.

Originally Posted by Daimo

Also, I wonder if you all would be so kind if this were an adult rider pulling a wheelie and being killed by someone/thing if the rider wasn't wearing a lid? No, you'd all flame them to hell for not having a lid. The fact this lad was young, and the death aided by other means, does not mean anything.

That's a rubbish example. A better example would be saying good riddence, you deserved to die, should you get yourself killed coming off your motorcycle whilst 5mph over the speed limit.

Infact, coming off and getting killed full stop, because speeding would mean you were breaking the law, which this kid wasn't.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Daimo

I aint being nasty, im being real without suger coating and heavenly angle topping another motorcycle death like some.

you still sound like a tw4t though.

So who here learned to ride on a heap of a field bike? Without a full set of CE armor? Guess what, you deserve to die.

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by Daimo

Young lad + fields + motorcycle + no protection = Acident waiting to happen, oh, it did, he paid the ultimate price.

But thats not stricly true is it. You need to add on + wire put up by somebody for some purpose we havent actually yet ascertained.

Theres a difference between ridnig round a field and falling off all by yourself and being whipped off your bike when your not expecting it by a wire thats been put up across the path that you are riding across.

Yes the outcome may have been different if he'd had a lid on... but I dont actually think thats the point is it ?

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

you still sound like a tw4t though.

So who here learned to ride on a heap of a field bike? Without a full set of CE armor? Guess what, you deserve to die.

Me, at 6 years of age.

Even then I had the common sense to use a crash helmet, large gloves, large jacket, thick jeans and the biggest boots I had. Before my dad even told me to put it all on.

I sound like a tw4t, I guess your great at basising an opinion of someone from a reply on the internet. Thanks, but i'll be friends with people with more of a judge of character than a simple "internet" reply...

Fizzy, true, but it says he died of serious head injuries, and i remain stated, that if he was wearing a skid lid, he'd probably be alive.

No respect, or time for anyone who goes out riding ANY motorcycle without adiquate protection. Can't understand that, then thats absolutly FINE by me. I'll be the one with more chance or retaining my skin and brains in an accident.

Originally Posted by Daimo

I'll be the one with more chance or retaining my skin and brains in an accident.

But the best way to retain your skin and brains is to not crash at all.

We all continuously assess risk - how fast to go (above or below the speed limit), to go for that overtake, is it wise to filter and so on. We all wear lids because we've be conditioned to (and on the road it's law anyway of course) never to ride without one, but the fact is it's no more or less important than any other decision we make regarding our safety while riding.

Declaring that wearing a lid is by far and away the most important thing you can do to avoid ever injuring yourself not only makes you sound like an sanctimonious ****, it also shows a profound lack of judgment.