Drug taking Teacher

I would want to know...........is he any good as a teacher?

[Biker Biggles]

I too would want to know if he was a good teacher and if he was nt any good Id want him got rid of for that reason,not because he got w&nkered at a stag night and made a c0ck of himself.
I just dont buy this "professional" lifestyle stuff.It reminds me of the old comedy sketch----"Im middle class and I look down on him because he's working class".Half the world and his brother are "professionals" now,mainly so they can inflate their own egos and so employers can exert more power than they ought.

[timwilky]

I have to say that anyone who can get themselves into the sort of state reported is unfit to be in locum parentis. I certainly would not trust such a person with the care of my grandchildren.

Yes, most of us drink, some will take recreational drugs and claim it does not harm us or prevent us from being responsible individuals. However, when done to the excess reported, it demonstrates an ability and acceptance to cross that invisible line. Who is to say that this guys next mistake might not happen at work.

sounds to me he needs to work in higher education. After all most of my tutors were either alcoholics or drug abusers and normally both.

[Bibio]

well i'm not going to be liked for the this. but i dont care.. hate me all you like.. there is a que anyway.

i can see who the "volvo" drivers are. get off your morel high ground.

if the bloke is a good teacher and good with the kids. surly thats all that matters.

is it a case of, he was in the papers and you have to deal with "the shame of it" "i wouldent let him teach my kids " " see we have a druggie as a teacher at the school"

and yes i have kids and yes they are at school... and yes i have "morals" but i'm not a slave to "the ideal"

if i meet a person who tells me they are a teacher i shake there hand .. why? because they have to deel with todays kids .. who are the nastiest most arrogent ppl there are.

and before you say "but my angels" forget it...

if on the other hand his social life was merging with his professional life then "sack the cu*t"

i know what its like to be in the papers and blasted for nothing coz the journalists who have to fill gaps... and before you ask yes it was drug related .. in fact i'll tell you. i moved into my house and the drug squad raided my house and found me in posession of a 16th of canabis resin i had tucked away "for the stresfull parts in life and parties" all because of small minded induviduals who i calss as "nobby no maters" were curious as to why i have so many friends... but because i was "in the papers" they all thaught i was a junkie (who i hate with a vengance - junkies that is) now that they have got to know me they now realise why i have so many friends.

so before you go ruining someones life.. try putting the shoe on the other foot.

after all it could just as easily be you in the papers...

i not totaly adverse as my chem teacher is an ex heroin addict with a crim record.
apart from being imcompitent and useless at teaching shes alright, just not on the same level as everyone else in the world.

I work so i can do what i want when im not at work. As long as what i do whilst out of work has no effect on my job then i dont see the problem. I go out on the lash on a friday night and have even taken drugs on the odd occasion. This does not and has not affected my work, ever and its none of works buisness either.

He got ****ed, was a tw4t and got done for it. What i think is important is that he pleaded guilty, he didnt try to hide away he fessed up and said ok ive done it whats the punishment, ill take it and hopefully hes learnt his leason. Curtainly assult is not cool but with a 75 pound fine, he obviously didnt do the guy much harm, he was probably too smashed to do anything major anyway. The damage was irresponsible but these things happen when you have a bloody stag do. Who thought it would be good idea to let a bunch of guys get smashed and then run arround a listed building. You take these things on you need to know the risks and its guarantied to happen eventually.

If the bloke had a string of convictions and was a regular problem then fine make him loose his job but i dont see how this incident affects his abilty to teach kids.

I don't think that this should make any difference Pete. The conviction for assault does not mean that children in his care are at risk. The conviction for criminal damage does not mean that he is likely to start smashing up the classroom. The drugs make me slightly uneasy, I have never done drugs, never even been tempted, and I have an absolutist view - I don't agree with Soulkiss here. Possession must surely indicate a more accepting approach to drugs. There is a possibility that he would suggest that taking drugs is OK and not as 'bad' as is made out.

On balance I'd go see the headteacher and seek reassurances that the teacher concerned will be monitored closely. I don't think I'd remove my daughter from this teacher's class though, I daresay that the bloke has learned his lesson.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by BluePete

keep his job?

...I don't want him anywhere near my kids.

Well he would need to lose his career, not his job. Otherwise it's just NIMBYism.

Personally, if he's an OK teacer I hope he keeps his career. There but for the grace of god & all that.

And he was not at all at risk of being held in loco parentis at the time of his escapade.

Originally Posted by Ed

The drugs make me slightly uneasy, I have never done drugs, never even been tempted, and I have an absolutist view - I don't agree with Soulkiss here. Possession must surely indicate a more accepting approach to drugs. There is a possibility that he would suggest that taking drugs is OK and not as 'bad' as is made out.

I am sure that there are plenty of teachers out there that hold views which I wouldnt want teaching to my children, but I am not about to sit down and grill every teacher over the political and social views for teaching my children. Put simple this wouldnt be news if the guy wasnt a primary school teacher. Who here could say that they have never got drunk to the point of having a patchy memory only to hear in horror what you got upto the next day in disbelief.

I had a french teacher who we all new smoked pot, he used to smoke rollies in the playground too and dressed like a punk with a hippie attitude. Why do I remember him, because he was one fo the best teachers I ever had. Woudl I let him teach my kids if he was around today, in an instant. I supose that what I am trying ot get at here is that if his ability to teach is not effected by his off duty behaviour and that behaviour is under control on the whole. The fact that he may do the odd line on special occasions or smoke pot at the weekend, I couldnt give a monkies.

We must get away from this attitutude that Class A drugs are taken by bad people and "nare do wells" it simply isnt true.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by 600+

sadly true! just heard on the radio that the Red Cross is giving lessons in schools on how to deal with knife wounds???!!! Next thing will be how to dismantle a gun

Whats point of that, to be safe better to know how to fire one.


I'm pretty sure it's none of his employers business what he gets up to, in normal circumstances, but he will have to sign disclosure so they can see his criminal record. Whether they then get to choose arbitrarily what is and isn't acceptable or not I have no idea.

I wouldn't be too fussed, it's not like he was going out for a tea party with Jacko, the Mcanns and Gary glitter now is it?

The problem is, that it's now been in the press, the schools reputation is at risk. Rather than any actual risk to the children, it's nothing more than image which'll probably cost this bloke his job.