Abortion

Originally Posted by dizzyblonde

Yes its always ok as far as I'm concerned. And the term is not abortion its 'termination' technically.
What I have a gripe over is that when you suffer from having a miscarriage, and you have to go to have the op to remove, that they put termination on your records, no matter how far in the pregnancy you are.

thats odd about your notes. It shouldn't be classes as a TOP (termination of pregnancy)
I think it should be on your notes as an IUD (intra uterine death) with a D&E (dilation and evacuation). At the very least a MTOP (Medical TOP). The rules around notes are crazy


But then I dont know your circumstances. *hug*

Originally Posted by Magnum

Im glad to hear your son made it after 26 weeks, it is very young. The limit of 24 weeks for a termination is hard to think about when they can still survive around that age.

The chances of a baby surviving and being "fully functional" when born at 24 are terrifically tiny. Even 26 28 and 30 weeks are contentious. If you took away the life support more than likely none of them would make it.

IMHO you cant cook a cake without an oven or for half the time in the oven and expect it to turn out ok, the same way you cant make a baby without a woman, and it's not viable until it can survive outside the womb without her.

Originally Posted by dizzyblonde

I have no idea, but losing a baby kinda makes you feel **** as it is without putting a stigmatic(right word?) phrase on your records. It wasn't a bloody termination, I wanted the baby. It died. They had to remove, as nature didn't remove it for herself.
It was something I got quite hacked off over for a while.

My wife had a miscarriage, we,d been told that do to an existing medical condition that she would be unlikely to have kids, but we kept on trying, eventually she fell pregnant and we went and told our whole family, friends everything, less than 24 hrs later she lost it, it was described as a 'spontaneous abortion' whatever it was called it was a horrible experience to have to go through, made worse by the fact I was in Scotland at the time working and didnt know till I got back next day, I cant imagine how hard it could be for someone to have to make that decision.

i'm with Tim and Fizz on this one.

Originally Posted by Stu

Is that why they don't distinguish between miscarriage & abortion in your records?

Stu - its a TOP (termination of Pregnancy) for abortion and Miscarriage

ive had 1 miscarriage (I was going to have a termination anyway) and 3 viable pregnancies. my pregnancies are rubbish with lot of medical intervention. as I was old during last pregnancy i had an amniocentesis to see if baby had downs or any other defect. i did not get results til 16 weeks. i had felt baby move and read all books on what foetus was like at every stage. i would still have had termination but it would not have been an easy option. but i personally feel i did not want to bring a child into the world who would maybe not be able to live independently - the responsibility would fall on my childrens head if i was not around. i realise some people with downs etc live a long and happy life but it was my choice along with my partner who thankfully agreed. luckily everything was ok and i now have 3 happy healthy kids.

i dont agree with termination as a form of contraception but that is a whole other problem

i dont agree with termination as a form of contraception but that is a whole other problem
+1

[skeetly]

Is abortion contraception?
I would have said no, but I knwo what you mean and I dont think people should stop worrying about getting starting pregnancies because abortion is available...

Some people dont use contraception, as they know abortion is availiable if they get 'unlucky'.

Thing for me is, when do you class a bunch of cells as a human being, see, my adopted daughters were both born very prematurely, 20 yrs ago they may not have survived and with the increase in medical knowledge premature babies are being born younger and going on to lead healthy lives, the other thing of course is that if you,re a bloke you might as well be a sperm donor in these cases, cos no one seems to give a **** how you might feel, when my wife miscarried it was my child that died as well, and yet I barely got a pat on the back, I know that the women has to go through it all and Im sure Ill get flamed for my comments but I just think that it should be a joint decision thats all