Damn. Another 3 points then.

Originally Posted by Spiderman

Gotta say, on parts of the north circ where its set at 40 i only ever do 40 thru the speed cameras.....as does almost every other car,bike,van,truck. Its a silly limit set to raise revenue mainly.
Approaching the Ace i have been known to hit 90 odd if i'm in a rush to get there...or the road is empty and i feel like a blat. It opens into almost 6 lanes at one point and if those lanes are virtually empty, well...

Yea, I agree here. The one speed camera that makes some sense to me is when your heading north bound, after the ace cafe into the first 40 mph limit near ikea. That slows everyone down in preperation for queing traffic at the lights

There is one near brent cross which diverts your attention away from traffinc trying to join, it dosnt seem safe

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by LK-SV

Not really the way to ride IMO ... Ok, you're entitled to it
where's the comfort zone if you are looking for Police cars all the time ... If you want comfort zone take a taxi
where's the real concentration .... You need the concentration
wheres the respect for other road users .... that doesn't really need much cognitive power
wheres the time to look for other potential hazards ....Police ARE a potential hazard just same as ice, children, sleeping cagers

I've never found myself disrespecting other road users because I was too busy looking for coppers. If other road user is in the way I will overtake... it is no skin off their nose. If they see that as disrespectful they can go sit on a broken bottle for all I care!

Originally Posted by LK-SV

LOL ....

4 Months riding the SV .... but 15 years on the roads, many in high performance cars .... (Lotus Elise, Audi TT Quattro, Audi 3.2 V6 Quattro) ..... its all the same

well no, not really - it only proves that you might be the owner of a small willy rather than any motoring expertise.

Your observation on a bike is, hopefully, a lot different from that in a car. I had nearly 20 years car experience before I turned to biking and I learnt loads. My partner;'s learing to ride now and says it's really opened up his eyes to the need for enhanced observation skills and it's already made him a better car driver.

D - sorry about your points. I got my 3 only 6 weeks before I was due to give up my license. Sucks, dunnit?

Coming from motorcycle only license its shocking how car drivers just dont look around. The people teaching me to drive say i look round to much and its unnecessary!!! well excuse me for wanting to keep an eye out both behind and infront.

Cheers for all the commiseration's folks. I'm OK with it on a very real sense- part of this is being grown up to accept responsibility for/the consequences of my actions. I'm certainly not entertaining the idea of going to court- I'd get squished with a huge fine and possibly more points!

I don't think (law aside) that my speeding was irresponsible to other road users- I use awareness and judgement and give myself space to react to situations where I can and so that other can react to me. Yes- I didn't spot the squad car until too late- tough, really!

Up to 6 points now. Not the end of the world. but time to be more cautious. If one is really going to speed, do it within reason (if I'd been below 60mph, maybe he could have exercised the discretion to not book me at all) and don't get caught!


I don't necessarily agree with all of the speed limits (if Kingston Council had their way, all the roads round here would be 5mph with speed humps on the A3!). I also think there is a bit of revenue generation/upkeep with speed.

Most of the A3 from Robin hood to Guildford is 3 lane motorway standard- I don't understand why the speed limit has been reduced to be honest. There's just as many flowers appear on the railings by the Robin Hood jct as when the limit was 70.

I would be happier to see more traffic police on the road, to be honest- dealing with all the other idiots - mobile phone drivers, aggressive drivers, un-taxed/uninsured drivers and the like but it's the law of diminishing returns really- cheaper to enforce speed and takes less resource.

And why does driving sports/prestige cars always have to be put down to the size of a bloke's tackle? Even if it is intended as a humourous comment (not smileyed as such), it still perpetuates a degree of condescending sexism against blokes and is a fairly irrelevant comment really. Just an observation- cos that comment has become rather dull (I've never had a sports car- and I've got a tiny one! If I wanted a sports car- it'd be for the fun of it, not to prove something).

Originally Posted by thedonal

And why does driving sports/prestige cars always have to be put down to the size of a bloke's tackle? Even if it is intended as a humourous comment (not smileyed as such), it still perpetuates a degree of condescending sexism against blokes and is a fairly irrelevant comment really. Just an observation- cos that comment has become rather dull (I've never had a sports car- and I've got a tiny one! If I wanted a sports car- it'd be for the fun of it, not to prove something).

Follow my train of thought here.... the somewhat unscientific claim made by the poster was that having a sports car makes you a more competent driver - I owned one and I certainly wouldn't make any claims about it improving my driving skills. I do say that riding a bike for years did, though.

(ps I don't use smileys much as I can't always see what they are)

Originally Posted by CoolGirl

well no, not really - it only proves that you might be the owner of a small willy rather than any motoring expertise.

I wouldn't say buying a fast car is any different to buying a fast bike !!

Never fails to amaze me when people come on a forum, and then get the hump when others have an opinion - the least I woukd expect though was a discussion rather than insult ....... To quote...........what I'm talking about here is a failure to communicate !!!

Originally Posted by CoolGirl

Follow my train of thought here.... the somewhat unscientific claim made by the poster was that having a sports car makes you a more competent driver - I owned one and I certainly wouldn't make any claims about it improving my driving skills. I do say that riding a bike for years did, though.

(ps I don't use smileys much as I can't always see what they are)

Fair enough.

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by LK-SV

I wouldn't say buying a fast car is any different to buying a fast bike !!

But it inherently is. Get in your fast car and lift both feet into the air...does your car fall over?

They are 2 very different beast with very different characteristics mate. Road awareness with each is also gonna be different.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by LK-SV

I wouldn't say buying a fast car is any different to buying a fast bike !!

Never fails to amaze me when people come on a forum, and then get the hump when others have an opinion - the least I woukd expect though was a discussion rather than insult ....... To quote...........what I'm talking about here is a failure to communicate !!!

Both generally ridden at <10% of their capabilities?

That's what your missus said too.
See insults are great, why else would you be on the internet