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Old 25-05-10, 06:46 PM   #31
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Default Re: swapping injection for carbs.

I'll let you know if it works
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Old 26-05-10, 06:51 PM   #32
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this will not work, the system will generate an FI fault as there is no feedback, the tacho on clocks dont work with a carbed bike either
just did some checks :

* no injectors needed, pulled one off and engine ran on 1 cylindre without FI fault.

* STP needs to work though, if the STVsensor is taken off the bodies, but left in the loom, you get a FI fault when the secondary valves open. and it will be almost impossible to have the STVA and STPS working like they should without all the rest

So I'm gonna buy everything and sell my stuff. might even make a profit out off it : money from powercommander and dashboard (still have unused aftermarket ) comes back in the pocket
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Old 26-05-10, 07:02 PM   #33
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You can buy box to simulate STV action.
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Old 26-05-10, 07:41 PM   #34
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do the connectors on the handlebar-switches match ?

I know the wiring is slightly different, but that can easily be adjusted, if the connectors from the curvy and pointy match.
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Old 26-05-10, 11:42 PM   #35
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do the connectors on the handlebar-switches match ?

I know the wiring is slightly different, but that can easily be adjusted, if the connectors from the curvy and pointy match.
dont think so as pointys have fixed headlights on and they also have a hazard lights switch, you could rewire it all though
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Old 27-05-10, 05:19 AM   #36
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dont think so as pointys have fixed headlights on and they also have a hazard lights switch, you could rewire it all though
but do the connectors match ? can one click the pointy handlebars on the curvy loom ?
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Old 17-06-10, 07:37 PM   #37
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carb's and rubbers arrived today. just took off the complete throttle bodies and loosend all the connectors and tried if the carbs fitted. they do perfectly

and the engine started (without injectors/TPS/...) attached to the loom

but loom and CDI are also on there way
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Old 18-06-10, 01:58 PM   #38
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i cant remember, i think the FI flywheel has loads of pickup points while the carbed has only got a couple as it does not need to know the exact crank position at all times
Why not keep the gen 2 ECU to drive the ignition? Just don't connect the injector drives. The ECU verifies that the fuel pump relay turns on, but doesn't know if there is really a pump fitted. assuming that the TPS are compatible, you just have to deal with the secondary throttle drive and sensor... there is a little electronic circuit you can buy to bypass all that (as it happens, I designed it, someone else commercialised it in a very low key way)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOEihBq85Uw
(go to the last post)
And there's even a demo video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOEihBq85Uw

PS Tu es complètement barge, tu sais? Et voilà que je me demande si ce serait possible de faire pareille avec une Aprilia RS250...

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Old 20-06-10, 10:29 PM   #39
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Why not keep the gen 2 ECU to drive the ignition? Just don't connect the injector drives. The ECU verifies that the fuel pump relay turns on, but doesn't know if there is really a pump fitted. assuming that the TPS are compatible, you just have to deal with the secondary throttle drive and sensor... there is a little electronic circuit you can buy to bypass all that (as it happens, I designed it, someone else commercialised it in a very low key way)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOEihBq85Uw
(go to the last post)
And there's even a demo video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOEihBq85Uw

you putted the same link twice ...

PS Tu es complètement barge, tu sais? Et voilà que je me demande si ce serait possible de faire pareille avec une Aprilia RS250...
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Mon francais n'est pas parfaits, mais je pense que tu veut dire que je suis fou dans une sense positive ?

about the Priller : must be possible, since I thinck it's slightly bigger than a KR1, and the biggest problem is front wheel clearance. My original idea was to use a 748 engine, but the lying down front cylinder would have been where the front discs are
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Oops, sorry, guessed the wrong half of Belgium... but yes, that's it

Here's the missing link:
http://www.twfracing.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=306

Yes, I'm amazed you managed to fit even the SV engine into such a short-wheelbase bike!
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