The mentality of car drivers - be afraid!

[dizzyblonde]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Sure, but if you trust some f*ckin mong in a cage to obey the highway code then you're asking for it.

I rode for at least 6 months with no indicators at all and did not have any more close calls. Idea is is do not put yourself in position where cars can affect you. Not possible all the time but your road positioning and dominance of your space ensures safety.

So what you are actually saying is that I have to be a mind reader?
Even out on the bike I've pulled you up about indicators.
You are lucky I would give you consideration anyway.
BTW not everyone in a cage is a mong, but sometimes there are mongs on bikes too.
...or are all people in cars all mongs because you don;t have a license to drive a car?

[yorkie_chris]

Everyone in a cage must be considered a mong until they are safely overtaken (or even unsafely ) and thus no longer capable of affecting you with mong-like behaviour.

Why do I need consideration from you? Like I say, idea is you do not put yourself in place where you are relying on consideration. rely on your wits not someone else.

I think you reading too much into this, or have got the wrong end of the stick or something. If you think defensive riding (making allowances for the dribbling spastics who WILL pull out on you, if you let them) is some sort of arrogance on my part because I don't own a car then you're living up to woman 4x4 driver standard pretty well

[dizzyblonde]

errrr no, you just sound like ......

A MONG

And its perhaps you that is the inconsiderate MONG at that, not any other person on the road.


.... your nine lives will come up eventually!

[dizzyblonde]

PS....I don't actually own a car, but I have a license to drive one

[yorkie_chris]

#sigh#

If you have an intelligent counterpoint to any of my views on roadcraft then I'd be glad to hear it.

I did my mod 2 pre test training with my instructor and he royally fecked me for indicating too early, the right turn i wanted was 6 metres past another right turn. He ripped me apart for signalling before the 1st right turn. If you do that on your test you will fail and so on blah blah blah. That afternoon i went down the same rd and right turned at the same junction, i didnt signal till after the 1st. The examiner said I knew you were trained by Mick coz none of his pupils fail on innapropriate signalling at that junction Lesson learned, dont signal too early.

[dizzyblonde]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

#sigh#

If you have an intelligent counterpoint to any of my views on roadcraft then I'd be glad to hear it.

roadcraft, we're on about idiot car drivers aren't we
YEah....stop being a mong.

Anyway............

Even in a car I still treat like everyone is out there to kill me.
There are all sorts of idiots out there. Me and YC live in the capital of kamikaze taxis, and they still frighten me in a two ton truck!

I do not particularly enjoy driving. But, unfortunately a car was plonked on my drive, and I was told I had to learn to drive it eventually, expanding family and all. So its a means to an end, I take it shopping, and dog walking etc, when really necessary, in all honesty its sat from one end of the week to the next, as its really not as appealing as the bikes. You get an itch to get out on a bike, don't happen with a car. My bike itch is getting sore it needs scratching that much!

Originally Posted by arenalife

Perhaps things are different down under but in the UK you wouldn't indicate before a road turning if you weren't intending going down it, that's asking for big trouble. In situations where you've got to make a driveway turning like that I accelerate to get safety space behind me then do quick indicate and turn in, or even forget it and come from the other way if it's really busy.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Here you would fail your driving test for indicating like that in a manner which would be likely to be misunderstood.

I also think you were asking for that one.

Hence the statement in the middle of my post about different rules and opinions. People say that "I do this" or "I do that", but the fact remains that under local rules I am required to clearly give x seconds and y metres warning and she was required to stay behind the line until such time as either I passed or turned regardless of what she "thinks" I am doing.

The rules remove the confusion. 99.999% of drivers get it right, but this one got it wrong and gave attitude about it <-- the point.

The only fail is if I am not on the lookout for this type of situation.

PS. I thought the thread was supposed to be about the 'my poop don't stink' mentality/ attitude of some drivers on the road.

Edit in italics. An oversight. I don't like to cast sweeping aspersions against all motorists.

[dizzyblonde]

Originally Posted by MattCollins

PS. I thought the thread was supposed to be about the 'my poop don't stink' mentality/ attitude of drivers on the road.

Well I suppose it was.
As for a comment on YCs views of roadcraft.....I'm pretty certain in those texts he so loves to cement his brain to, is a golden rule that applies to both car and bike, or cyclist and horsey type......be courteous to other road users, which includes giving consideration and respect. Its one of the things that gets told to you by an instructor when you do your CBT, and your instructor when you first sit in a car. Intelligence is not always sought from a book, its not intelligence that is required on a road, its common sense.

But then again, that can be repeated over and over, and peoples roses still smell like poo poo poo poo, because everyone has to be everywhere first, everyone must have that gap in the traffic, people insist on not using indicators etc etc.