Thank you Mr Police Sergeant

Please don't be condescending.

[Paul the 6th]

Originally Posted by martin15s

.....but then he is from Yorkshire.....

What's tha saying about yorkshire? Remember it's the biggest county in't land, and therefore an awful lot of people to upset (it's in the north of england just incase you're unsure)

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

You need to learn to take YC with a pinch of salt! Just don't react in such a confrontational manner all the time.

Ok, and in the same vein perhaps people don't need to respect you for your confrontational posts and your unjustified stereotyping.

One rule for one eh?

She's good is that there MBK

Love you Paul!!

[Paul the 6th]

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

Love you Paul!!

the org is just so full of love lately isn't lol

on a side note, every job/workplace has it's own set of nobheads. Average quota seems to be 15-20% depending on where you work, and unfortunately the police is no different.

On a similar thread to Lozzo, earlier this year I was let off with a warning & £60 fine for unknowingly having no MOT (dealer said it came with 12 months MOT but it only had 6) after an unmarked traffic car pulled me for cruising along at 89.6mph on the motorway. Could quite easily have given me points and a fine, especially considering that my vehicle was also out of MOT (instant fail @ attitude test IMO)... They were really nice fellas and let me on my way.

Then last month whilst getting on the motorway at around 60mph, I was on the sliproad and nipped over a solid white line into the crawler lane part of the sliproad because a slow moving car & lorry was blocking me from joining the motorway without causing other road users to have to brake or change direction. I had checked all my mirrors and nearside blindspot before hopping over the solid white line (there were no other vehicles within 200 yards of me in the crawler lane).

Unfortunately for me, the traffic cops gave me 3 points and £60 fine for crossing the white line, and another £60 fine for failing to display valid tax disc (vehicle was taxed on computer - I was just awaiting the tax disc in the post, which, ironically enough arrived the next morning around 15 hours after I was pulled).

I dealt with them politely, no bad attitude, straightforward answers and explanations etc... but I felt there was no need to dole out the second £60 fine for no tax disc because it WAS taxed on computer.

You win some, you lose some. I know the rules and I'm a big boy. It just makes me appreciate it when I get one of the good officers who has a job to do but can hit their targets without being unneccessarily harsh. No point being bitter because it won't get me anywhere..

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by martin15s

and foolishly believes he has the right to hurl abuse at the police.

I believe the term is "I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say".

An officers duty is to protect the public, no? This c*** decided to apply a fine to someone who was already contrite (shown by him stopping rather than nailing it, like I would do) and in my opinion (to which I am entitled...) not letting the person in question go with a stern telling off for carrying out this safe though illegal maneuver was behavior which one might reasonably expect from someone who may be a bit of a c***.

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

he would "hurl abuse at the Police." Nor is he anyones fool.

I have no intention of causing myself to have an accident with any stairs

It may be a surprise to you, but in my dealings with the police in general I am in general polite and helpful. You need to separate that from an opinion about a singular officer Martin.

Originally Posted by martin15s

Being opinionated does not excuse such crude terminology. As for being confrontational, surely calling the officer a c*** is just that.

Would it help if I said I believed the officer conducted himself in a manner befitting of a c***?

Confrontational would be calling an officer that in person, which would be a bad idea. On here, you have simply heard my opinion, which is what it is... and is exceedingly unlikely to change unless new facts come to light.

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

Just don't react in such a confrontational manner all the time.

And I am sorry, but being offended by crude terminology does NOT give you the right to make assumptions or stereotype people just because of the area in which they are from.

Let him react any way he wants, got to have some entertainment here somewhere

I like stereotypes, they let me offend whole swathes of the population at once .

Anyway, Martin, you're an old boy, ex-job... I could make all sorts of assumptions about you and the stereotype you fall into, especially considering previous discussions we've had about suspension issues. But, I don't. I'm happy to attack any point you make on it's failings or it's merits, it's not personal, it's a forum... So don't be a c***

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

I believe the term is "I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say".

An officers duty is to protect the public, no? This c*** decided to apply a fine to someone who was already contrite (shown by him stopping rather than nailing it, like I would do) and in my opinion (to which I am entitled...) not letting the person in question go with a stern telling off for carrying out this safe though illegal maneuver was behavior which one might reasonably expect from someone who may be a bit of a c***.



I have no intention of causing myself to have an accident with any stairs

It may be a surprise to you, but in my dealings with the police in general I am in general polite and helpful. You need to separate that from an opinion about a singular officer Martin.



Would it help if I said I believed the officer conducted himself in a manner befitting of a c***?

Confrontational would be calling an officer that in person, which would be a bad idea. On here, you have simply heard my opinion, which is what it is... and is exceedingly unlikely to change unless new facts come to light.



Let him react any way he wants, got to have some entertainment here somewhere

I like stereotypes, they let me offend whole swathes of the population at once .

Anyway, Martin, you're an old boy, ex-job... I could make all sorts of assumptions about you and the stereotype you fall into, especially considering previous discussions we've had about suspension issues. But, I don't. I'm happy to attack any point you make on it's failings or it's merits, it's not personal, it's a forum... So don't be a c***

I suppose only you know why you need to be so abusive, but if it helps you feel better at the expense of others, then there's your problem.

[yorkie_chris]

Care to point out what I have said at the expense of anyone else?

Originally Posted by Paul the 6th

on a side note, every job/workplace has it's own set of nobheads. Average quota seems to be 15-20% depending on where you work, and unfortunately the police is no different.

+1. Have to work with traffic officers of different types and a small number of them are proper nobs. Its just that they appear to be large nobs because of the job they are carrying out at the time you speak to them.

But anyway, friend of mine got done for 113mph on the M23 overtaking some people. Cops pulled him straight away (good job as he was still accelerating). They were really cool and actually said his riding had been pretty good and quite safe, unfortunately just too quickly. Went to court and the officers actually added into their statements the fact that his riding was in no way unsafe and he had full control etc.
Ending up getting 6 points and £300 fine, but could off been alot worse.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

I believe the term is "I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say".

An officers duty is to protect the public, no? This c*** decided to apply a fine to someone who was already contrite (shown by him stopping rather than nailing it, like I would do) and in my opinion (to which I am entitled...) not letting the person in question go with a stern telling off for carrying out this safe though illegal maneuver was behavior which one might reasonably expect from someone who may be a bit of a c***.



I have no intention of causing myself to have an accident with any stairs

It may be a surprise to you, but in my dealings with the police in general I am in general polite and helpful. You need to separate that from an opinion about a singular officer Martin.



Would it help if I said I believed the officer conducted himself in a manner befitting of a c***?

Confrontational would be calling an officer that in person, which would be a bad idea. On here, you have simply heard my opinion, which is what it is... and is exceedingly unlikely to change unless new facts come to light.



Let him react any way he wants, got to have some entertainment here somewhere

I like stereotypes, they let me offend whole swathes of the population at once .

Anyway, Martin, you're an old boy, ex-job... I could make all sorts of assumptions about you and the stereotype you fall into, especially considering previous discussions we've had about suspension issues. But, I don't. I'm happy to attack any point you make on it's failings or it's merits, it's not personal, it's a forum... So don't be a c***

touche as they say in France - no offence intended - not quite so sure about the old boy

Er.. well characterising a policeman for going about his business (when you weren't there so know nothing about it) as a C***, for thinking that a copper should conform to your own personal code of conduct instead of his interpretation of the law, which you then say is something you might reasonably expect of a c***, saying that a forum is not personal and then calling another poster a C*** in the same breath, is all just plain abusive. Using the word C*** as a first and last resort is not only offensive, but shows very little respect for those you don't really know. And I'm not sure why using stereotypes to offend 'whole swathes of the population' is something to be aiming for unless you have either a vastly over inflated sense of your own self, or a misguided sense of humour.