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Old 21-01-11, 12:20 PM   #31
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Ralph, I might dispute your version of a tank slapper. Any time the front end gets out of control with oscillations from side to side it is a tank slapper.
That's fine with me mate, I'm not really bothered who calls a tankslapper what. We've done this debate a million times on the forum. I'm happy with my version of it and I'm quite happy for you to have yours.

The more important point I was trying to make is that lots of people use the term tankslapper in exactly the same way you do, for every bar wagging or slapping incident, but the discussion always seems to end up in how to avoid or deal with my version of a tankslapper "they say you need more throttle, etc, etc" , which is not valid, not always even good advice and downright dangerous if some idiot decides to try and follow it.

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Old 21-01-11, 12:25 PM   #32
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no he meant OP (imo)
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Old 21-01-11, 01:11 PM   #33
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Ralph, I might have been a bit clearer with this too.

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Ralph, I might dispute your version of a tank slapper. Any time the front end gets out of control with oscillations from side to side it is a tank slapper.
"Out of control" meaning that the rider cannot do anything about it other than to back off and hold on...
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Old 21-01-11, 04:13 PM   #34
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Ralph, I might have been a bit clearer with this too.

"Out of control" meaning that the rider cannot do anything about it other than to back off and hold on...
Gotcha!

If it gets to the point where it's bouncing hard of the lock stops at a rate of knots, your probably coming off anyway.
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Old 21-01-11, 04:19 PM   #35
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Luckily I never had one bad enough that it didn't sort itself out, but I have had one following a near highside, that had just about sorted itself out when I ran out of road! I was already out of the saddle in a position where my shoulders were over the bars, and the deceleration of the bike when it hit the muddy grass verge was enough to dramatically slow the bike, and I carried on going at the same speed. So down the road on my face, as the bike straightened out, ran across the grass verge on it's own, hit the hedge and toppled over with next to no damage. If I had been another metre or two further away from the grass verge, I'd have recovered it.

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Old 22-01-11, 11:08 AM   #36
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for my few

[QUOTE=hongman;2464845]I think its a much debated subject, some say give it some throttle, some say ease off a bit, some say keep it cracked on.

Try all in one case and the only thing that work for me was to push on again, fecking wrest were so weak after that one trying to hold it, see him too had even thought about which side i was going to fall on to too, (away from the cars i was over taking ) was i happy when it was all over. another cheap lesson learned !
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