Holy moly!! Biker rear ended video.

Did the old fella show any genuine concern, maybe pay you a hospital visit or even just send a card?

Wow, the front of the bike basically exploded. Impressive.

Originally Posted by Binky

"Denise Milani Makes a Chicken Salad" is a far more entertaining video.

When I did my DAS, the instructor always told us to leave the bike in 1st with the clutch held when sat in queuing traffic like that and to keep an eye on our mirrors. Told numerous stories about seeing someone approaching too quickly / not noticing the traffic queuing and having to pull into the gap down the middle of the road, only to see the car smash straight into the car at the back of the queue (much like in this vid).

Always makes me cringe when i see bikers sat in a queue with both feet on the floor and hands tapping away on the tank in their own little worlds...

...just re-enforces the case for filtering in my mind!

[andrewsmith]

Originally Posted by Roberrrrt

When I did my DAS, the instructor always told us to leave the bike in 1st with the clutch held when sat in queuing traffic like that and to keep an eye on our mirrors. Told numerous stories about seeing someone approaching too quickly / not noticing the traffic queuing and having to pull into the gap down the middle of the road, only to see the car smash straight into the car at the back of the queue (much like in this vid).

Always makes me cringe when i see bikers sat in a queue with both feet on the floor and hands tapping away on the tank in their own little worlds...

...just re-enforces the case for filtering in my mind!

That is probably the worse adivce ever given, to you. If your shunted from behind with the in gear (even tho clutched) you'd do a very painful backflip.

Originally Posted by andrewsmith

That is probably the worse adivce ever given, to you. If your shunted from behind with the in gear (even tho clutched) you'd do a very painful backflip.

Why?

that reminds me alot of tha guy on a bike somewhere in asia, looks like he karate flips off the screen then walks back to his bike.

lucky lucky guy tho, if that dopzy bint was goin much faster wouldve snadwiched him into the car in front

[andrewsmith]

Originally Posted by reeder

Why?

The bike go into gear and lock the rear wheel (and stall the bike) when the clutch is released.
Ever tried moving a bike in gear with out the motor?
and bikes are heavy beasts to have fall ontop of you (ask anyone thats lowsided or flipped a bike)

Originally Posted by andrewsmith

The bike go into gear and lock the rear wheel (and stall the bike) when the clutch is released.
Ever tried moving a bike in gear with out the motor?
and bikes are heavy beasts to have fall ontop of you (ask anyone thats lowsided or flipped a bike)

ive had a 125cc dirt bike flip up and land on me,
that was a light tiny thing and it still bloody hurt, id dread to have the SV land on me, let alone anything bigger

Originally Posted by Roberrrrt

...just re-enforces the case for filtering in my mind!

But its not always safer to filter either.

Watching the video, it looks like he did come upto the car in front a little hot and had to break hard himself.

Although its no defence to the woman behind, if he had taken it a little slower, the car behind wouldnt have been going so fast either.

Originally Posted by andrewsmith

That is probably the worse adivce ever given, to you. If your shunted from behind with the in gear (even tho clutched) you'd do a very painful backflip.

I think the message he was trying to explain to me was that you should be keeping obs in your mirrors even when stationary (or in this guys case, when breaking hard-ish coming up behind someone) to see if the car behind you isn't reacting to the situation (as per the video), that way, you reduce (but not completely eliminate) the chance of being rear-ended. I.e. it wouldn't matter if you had the clutch in if you avoided the crash in the first place!

If that's not good advice, what advice would you give in this situation?

@Speedplay - yeah filtering's not always the best thing to do, but if it's a choice of using available space to either side of the stationary car ahead, or get shunted, I know which I'd choose!

It's all theoretical, and I'm aware that keeping an eye on your mirrors when the car in front has just braked fairly harshly is a bit tricky, but I guess it all comes down to better planning (IN THEORY - bearing in mind I'm not suggesting that I'd have ridden any better than the poor guy in the vid!!)