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Old 14-02-11, 04:41 PM   #31
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pmsl!! Its my digger and I'll play with it as much as I like!!


P'raps it is a bit of a trek to Shropshire on second thoughts. You could always hire one in, and I'll come up and drive it for you...
meh only takes 20 minutes to learn to drive one...

if you don't mind missing fence piles, and branches of your trees..?
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Old 14-02-11, 05:45 PM   #32
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Ed its not that thick or wide, if its not reinforced then sledgehammer, job done.
If you do go down the jackhammer / sthilsaw route then beg, borrow steal steel toecap boots and goggles. I've done too many investigations on accidents where "it was only a 5 min job" was the excuse.
Difficult to change gears without toes, (its actually difficult to walk without toes.
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Old 14-02-11, 06:53 PM   #33
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What he really means is that he likes pulling knobs
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Old 15-02-11, 12:20 AM   #34
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meh only takes 20 minutes to learn to drive one...

if you don't mind missing fence piles, and branches of your trees..?
Really? Is that a fact?

I've been driving / operating them for 20 years and I can quite categorically state that after 20 minutes you only know enough to kill yourself with one.

Whilst I realise that numbers was (hopefully) joking, there have been a lot of people killed by going out and hiring one for the weekend 'cos, after all, how hard can they be to drive?

I learnt to use them in the Royal Engineers, and had to complete a 6 month long course, picking up 3 City & Guilds in the process. We had to learn to maintain the kit we were using, the theory behind the mechanics of the thing and different techniques for digging and levelling as well as different types of machines - dozers, tracked and wheeled loading shovels, light wheeled tractors (JCB type diggers) and compaction equipment, and wheeled and tracked excavators.


20 minutes? I don't think so!!
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Old 15-02-11, 12:28 AM   #35
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Really? Is that a fact?

I've been driving / operating them for 20 years and I can quite categorically state that after 20 minutes you only know enough to kill yourself with one.

Whilst I realise that numbers was (hopefully) joking, there have been a lot of people killed by going out and hiring one for the weekend 'cos, after all, how hard can they be to drive?

I learnt to use them in the Royal Engineers, and had to complete a 6 month long course, picking up 3 City & Guilds in the process. We had to learn to maintain the kit we were using, the theory behind the mechanics of the thing and different techniques for digging and levelling as well as different types of machines - dozers, tracked and wheeled loading shovels, light wheeled tractors (JCB type diggers) and compaction equipment, and wheeled and tracked excavators.


20 minutes? I don't think so!!
Yep 15 minutes for me
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Old 15-02-11, 07:25 AM   #36
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I agree with tinpants, you might know the controls after 20 mins, but you wont know how to operate it correctly.

Same as forklifts, you could be shown the controls quickly, dont mean you can operate one.
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Old 15-02-11, 01:33 PM   #37
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Its the same as anything, i could ride a bike after 20 minutes, but you could tell i had only been on it 20 minutes lol.
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Old 15-02-11, 02:09 PM   #38
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Really? Is that a fact?

I've been driving / operating them for 20 years and I can quite categorically state that after 20 minutes you only know enough to kill yourself with one.

Whilst I realise that numbers was (hopefully) joking, there have been a lot of people killed by going out and hiring one for the weekend 'cos, after all, how hard can they be to drive?

I learnt to use them in the Royal Engineers, and had to complete a 6 month long course, picking up 3 City & Guilds in the process. We had to learn to maintain the kit we were using, the theory behind the mechanics of the thing and different techniques for digging and levelling as well as different types of machines - dozers, tracked and wheeled loading shovels, light wheeled tractors (JCB type diggers) and compaction equipment, and wheeled and tracked excavators.


20 minutes? I don't think so!!
Id hope the Meh Indicates me pulling of ur leg..

I learnt to operate one, safely and successfully in a weekend, to the point I safely and successfully installed my package sewage treatment plant.

Without a doubt I am not the same skill level as you after 20 years, but the point I was trying to make is the 3 tonne one I had wasn't very difficult to learn to the point of being very effective with it.

Anyway

Back on track ,

Ed, you done the bloody job yet or what?
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Old 15-02-11, 02:13 PM   #39
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Ed, where abouts are you as I have a large Hilti breaker you can use.

I've broken 300 mm (not reinforced) concrete with it no problems.

I go and see the girlfriend most weekends in Northwich so could meet somewhere if its any use.
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