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Biker Biggles · 08-03-12, 04:00 PM

Police might not be interested but a little claim for damage to the ped and a sprained wrist against the jagman might not go amiss.The video evidence would make that a good bet.

As for the incident ------clearly the car is at fault for an unsafe overtake.Having said that the ped rider could have anticipated trouble and positioned better to avoid it.As in most crashes,it takes two to tangle.

Biker Biggles · 08-03-12, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by specialone

Please be aware any new viewers to this threadm, there is bad language in the video.

Oi

You cant refer to northerners talking with daft accents like that.

Winder · 08-03-12, 05:21 PM

Things like this make my blood boil. The law doesn't care about idiots killing people on the road with bad driving, couldn't give a monkeys. This bloke and all the other c0cks that cut people up, drive while on a phone, have no lane discipline, drive in the middle lane of motorways etc etc etc should be MASSIVELY fined to make them think twice about doing it again. I'm afraid I would of lost my temper and would have force fed him my crash helmet. Well done that kid for keeping his cool.

08-03-12, 05:27 PM

No point heavily fining after the event, it might be too late for one of us.

Prevention is better than any punishment, training and a whole attitude change is required.

Wideboy · 08-03-12, 05:40 PM

was he still a driving instructor or retired? dont they get their licence's revoked if they get driving offences?

either way i would have battered him for that, happily of had a criminal record for it.

i had the same thing done to me just before AR09 except they undertook me on a single carriage way, loads of damage done to his car door from my barend and none done to me as it had gravel rash anyway. He wouldn't get out of his car, only spoke to me through a crack in the window. I went to the cop shop and reported it only because he said he was going to report me and i wanted to get in first. 4 months later and despite him refusing to stop and me having 3 witnesses backing up what i said happened and him having none the police decided to do nothing because i kicked his door in whilst he was forcing me off the road and i could be prosecuted for that. Was also cautioned as according to him i threatened him at the lights, again no witnesses to this.

got the impression it was thrown out as i was a yoof on a motorbike, protect the guilty!

08-03-12, 05:49 PM

Its about time the laws of this country were changed its always about protecting the guilty

Winder · 08-03-12, 06:16 PM

Should we start a motorcycle vigilante group that ride around the UK waiting to "Unleish the justice" upside some idiots head when they drive like a b'end?

Messie · 08-03-12, 06:21 PM

Hang on a min - I don't think shouting out about illegal and immoral actions that you would be prepared to commit is quite the thing we're looking for here. Some law or other about incitement comes to mind ...

08-03-12, 06:22 PM

The jag driver was being impatient at being stuck behind the ped around the roundabout, assumed the ped was going to return to the gutter as most peds do, and gunned it past. Instead the ped rider moved slightly to the right and the jag driver got his trousers filled. It was a single track exit though, what looks like a centre line is just a strip of tar banding, so in the eyes of the law/insurance it's the Jag drivers fault.

The ped rider could certainly do with some extra training though. What he calls a lifesaver, I call a little sideways glance to the right, and besides that turning right at a roundabout his lifesaver should have been to the left. He also should have known the jag was there in his mirrors long before it happened. He should not be changing position in the road even 1 foot in either direction, without at least a mirror check on that side (he didn't move on purpose though, he was wandering). I maintain, firmly believe, and always will, that in 99.9% of accidents, there's something the rider did to contribute to it, even if in the eyes of the law they are 100% not at fault.

08-03-12, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by -Ralph-

The jag driver was being impatient at being stuck behind the ped around the roundabout, assumed the ped was going to return to the gutter as most peds do, and gunned it past. Instead the ped rider moved slightly to the right and the jag driver got his trousers filled. It was a single track exit though, what looks like a centre line is just a strip of tar banding, so in the eyes of the law/insurance it's the Jag drivers fault.

The ped rider could certainly do with some extra training though. What he calls a lifesaver, I call a little sideways glance to the right, and besides that turning right at a roundabout his lifesaver should have been to the left. He also should have known the jag was there in his mirrors long before it happened. He should not be changing position in the road even 1 foot in either direction, without at least a mirror check on that side (he didn't move on purpose though, he was wandering). I maintain, firmly believe, and always will, that in 99.9% of accidents, there's something the rider did to contribute to it, even if in the eyes of the law they are 100% not at fault.

Oh lordy, what is the world coming to? I agree with -Ralph-

. Almost every word of it, actually.

08-03-12, 04:00 PM	#31
Biker Biggles Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Barnet Herts Posts: 5,071	Re: Ped Vs Jag, Warning !!! contains bad language Police might not be interested but a little claim for damage to the ped and a sprained wrist against the jagman might not go amiss.The video evidence would make that a good bet. As for the incident ------clearly the car is at fault for an unsafe overtake.Having said that the ped rider could have anticipated trouble and positioned better to avoid it.As in most crashes,it takes two to tangle. __________________ On a clear day we stand there and look further than the ordinary eye can see.

08-03-12, 05:21 PM	#33
Winder Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Moved again now in Bracknell Posts: 981	Re: Ped Vs Jag, Warning !!! contains bad language Things like this make my blood boil. The law doesn't care about idiots killing people on the road with bad driving, couldn't give a monkeys. This bloke and all the other c0cks that cut people up, drive while on a phone, have no lane discipline, drive in the middle lane of motorways etc etc etc should be MASSIVELY fined to make them think twice about doing it again. I'm afraid I would of lost my temper and would have force fed him my crash helmet. Well done that kid for keeping his cool. __________________ "Somewhere between happy and total f**kin wreck"

08-03-12, 05:27 PM	#34
Specialone Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ped Vs Jag, Warning !!! contains bad language No point heavily fining after the event, it might be too late for one of us. Prevention is better than any punishment, training and a whole attitude change is required.

08-03-12, 05:40 PM	#35
Wideboy Evel Knievel Mega Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Eastleigh Posts: 4,641	Re: Ped Vs Jag, Warning !!! contains bad language was he still a driving instructor or retired? dont they get their licence's revoked if they get driving offences? either way i would have battered him for that, happily of had a criminal record for it. i had the same thing done to me just before AR09 except they undertook me on a single carriage way, loads of damage done to his car door from my barend and none done to me as it had gravel rash anyway. He wouldn't get out of his car, only spoke to me through a crack in the window. I went to the cop shop and reported it only because he said he was going to report me and i wanted to get in first. 4 months later and despite him refusing to stop and me having 3 witnesses backing up what i said happened and him having none the police decided to do nothing because i kicked his door in whilst he was forcing me off the road and i could be prosecuted for that. Was also cautioned as according to him i threatened him at the lights, again no witnesses to this. got the impression it was thrown out as i was a yoof on a motorbike, protect the guilty! __________________ 05 DRZ400E RIP hovis

08-03-12, 05:49 PM	#36
Suchy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ped Vs Jag, Warning !!! contains bad language Its about time the laws of this country were changed its always about protecting the guilty

08-03-12, 06:16 PM	#37
Winder Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Moved again now in Bracknell Posts: 981	Re: Ped Vs Jag, Warning !!! contains bad language Should we start a motorcycle vigilante group that ride around the UK waiting to "Unleish the justice" upside some idiots head when they drive like a b'end? __________________ "Somewhere between happy and total f*kin wreck" Last edited by Winder; 08-03-12 at 06:18 PM.*

08-03-12, 06:21 PM	#38
Messie The Teacer Mega Poster Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: colchester Posts: 2,739	Re: Ped Vs Jag, Warning !!! contains bad language Hang on a min - I don't think shouting out about illegal and immoral actions that you would be prepared to commit is quite the thing we're looking for here. Some law or other about incitement comes to mind ... __________________ There's a fine line between a hobby and a mental illness

08-03-12, 06:22 PM	#39
-Ralph- Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Ped Vs Jag, Warning !!! contains bad language The jag driver was being impatient at being stuck behind the ped around the roundabout, assumed the ped was going to return to the gutter as most peds do, and gunned it past. Instead the ped rider moved slightly to the right and the jag driver got his trousers filled. It was a single track exit though, what looks like a centre line is just a strip of tar banding, so in the eyes of the law/insurance it's the Jag drivers fault. The ped rider could certainly do with some extra training though. What he calls a lifesaver, I call a little sideways glance to the right, and besides that turning right at a roundabout his lifesaver should have been to the left. He also should have known the jag was there in his mirrors long before it happened. He should not be changing position in the road even 1 foot in either direction, without at least a mirror check on that side (he didn't move on purpose though, he was wandering). I maintain, firmly believe, and always will, that in 99.9% of accidents, there's something the rider did to contribute to it, even if in the eyes of the law they are 100% not at fault. Last edited by -Ralph-; 08-03-12 at 06:28 PM.