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Old 20-03-12, 01:56 PM   #31
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I do wish the papers would stop saying 'heart attack' which I doubt this was.

Older people tend to get heart attacks through blood clots and narrowing of the arteries. That's why if you are young and fit you probably won't but even when you are older you can suffer several heart attacks and not even realise.

He had a cardiac arrest - his heart stopped. As I said in an earlier post, that can happen if you have an allergy to wasp stings, an electric shock or as is likely in this lad's case, cardiomyopathy.

The heart may start working again but the ongoing problems of brain damage cannot be underestimated. We may joke about Chris not remembering things, but this can make life incredibly difficult. When the doctor asked Chris in the hospital if I was his sister he said no. When he then asked if I was his girlfriend Chris looked horrified and said certainly not. However, some people cannot even remember their wife or parents or any of their previous life when they wake up, nor can they form new memories if that part of the brain has been starved of oxygen and damaged.

Rather than praying for him people might be better to donate to one of the charities that offer screening for young people and also support those who have lost loved ones through the condition or are recovering if they were lucky enough to survive.
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Old 20-03-12, 02:51 PM   #32
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On the positive (perhaps cynical) side I daresay that those charities will get quite a boost from this incident whatever the outcome.
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Old 20-03-12, 03:39 PM   #33
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Funny isnt it ? a footballer has a cardiac arrest and we have to pray for him, 6 lads get incinerated in a warrior and not a peep out of anyone on the forum, still lets all pray for him all the same.
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Old 20-03-12, 04:33 PM   #34
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I dont think thats in disrespect to those lads who died that day any more than it is to any other individuals who've lost thier life in conflict and gone unmentioned on here.

All those who are critising that Muamba makes his profession as a footballer need to have a good think about what your actual argument is. When Sic died on the track I didnt hear anyone complaining that he got a 6 pages in the news paper yet when any other motorcylist dies on our roads they rarely get more than 6 lines. Just think about that.

Another thing, it appears that you're saying its not right that he's held in higher regard than any other individual based on him being a footballer. Yet all the while you're looking down your nose on a person based on what they do for a living wtf is all that about?
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Old 20-03-12, 04:40 PM   #35
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I'm not looking down my nose at anyone, Ive just spent the weekend at brize norton where they are preparing the for the repatriation of the six killed in Afghan the other week and if push comes to shove I'll stand by the lads in uniform every time, but thats just my opinion
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Old 20-03-12, 04:50 PM   #36
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I'm not looking down my nose at anyone, Ive just spent the weekend at brize norton where they are preparing the for the repatriation of the six killed in Afghan the other week and if push comes to shove I'll stand by the lads in uniform every time, but thats just my opinion
Sorry pal, bundled in to my response to you I can see how that may have appeared directed at you. I assure you I've nothing but respect for these lads and living in cpl hartleys back yard Im very aware of the events and I too support thier acts.

Unfortunatly you're not the first to mention his profession as a negative in your perception of the coverage which he is reciving, it just so happened on this occasion to be the straw which broke the argumentative ****s back
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Old 20-03-12, 05:11 PM   #37
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No worries mate and if anyone thinks that just cause he's a footballer I somehow think his life is worth less than someone else then theyre plain wrong,I hope he pulls through, it just sometime feels that the guys and girls in uniform dont get the respect of say, actors, models, sportsmen, singers, z list celebs etc
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Old 20-03-12, 06:03 PM   #38
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All those who are critising that Muamba makes his profession as a footballer need to have a good think about what your actual argument is. When Sic died on the track I didnt hear anyone complaining that he got a 6 pages in the news paper yet when any other motorcylist dies on our roads they rarely get more than 6 lines. Just think about that.
Good point Matt.

Just for the record, i watch pretty much every program on afghan thats around and the recent one that ended last week, i shed a tear im not ashamed to say as it spoke about the guys who were killed and injured, very sad, as matt said, i couldnt hold them in any higher regard.

My point, i care about the soldiers too, just so happens that i have more of a 'connection' to muamba, doesnt mean i care more about footballers or any other celebs.
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Old 20-03-12, 06:20 PM   #39
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Funny isnt it ? a footballer has a cardiac arrest and we have to pray for him, 6 lads get incinerated in a warrior and not a peep out of anyone on the forum, still lets all pray for him all the same.
Didn't realise that showing concern/empathy/sympathy was an either or situation.

Professional footballers or professional soldiers - equally deserving of people's time and attention and they all voluntarily signed up for the job.
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Didn't realise that showing concern/empathy/sympathy was an either or situation.

Professional footballers or professional soldiers - equally deserving of people's time and attention and they all voluntarily signed up for the job.
Ah, I was waiting for someone to say that tbh, well i'm off to Afghan in the new year for a 6 month deployment to camp bastion and yeah I signed up again for the second time in my life and if anything happens to me when I'm down there well it'll be my fault cos I signed up, but you see I signed up again cos I thought I was actually doing something for the good of the country, although we're all entitled to own opinions I suppose
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