Filtering speeds / how fast do you go ?.

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Filtering speeds / how fast do you go?

How fast is the bike in question? That seems like a good speed.

[andrewsmith]

Originally Posted by mep

At the police Biks Safe they suggest fitering at a speed where you are moving no faster that a walking pace past the traffic, ie max around 3-5 mph faster than the traffice. This will enable you to react to any hazzards etc.

In town I will not filter untill the traffice speed has dropped to around 20mph.

I tend not to filter on other roads unless there is a long slow queue of traffic for some reason. I don't ride much on motorways, but would employ a similar tactid to town.

That seems an odd tact. When i did my iam few years back, it was actively encoraged by the police assesors (most do bits of bikesafe) and they were saying 30 to 40 mph max (case of you risk your licence above that) or what you are comfortable with

I thought the IAM rule was based on 20-20. Ie you ride no faster than 20mph faster than the traffic you're filtering until the traffic you're filtering reaches 20mph (in which case you're now travelling at 40mph) and should then rejoin traffic.

The speed at which I'll decide to filter is directly related to the speed at which I think I need to be travelling. If I'm late and the M621 (2lanes) are doing 50 I'll tuck in between and carry on at what feels reasonable, similarly if I'm well ahead of time I'll stay in lane and follow suit.
Its the same on every road though, if I'm not in a hurry I wont cut to the front at a set of lights (unless its a huggggggeee que), but generally anything less than 10cars and ill stay in line... unless Im trying to get somewhere/save some time then I wont hesitate.

Guess my answer to the OP would be, for me its all relative to the day/situation.

[NTECUK]

So how do we feel about filtering between 2 trucks one going 55mph the other 57 mph on dual carriage ways?

Best done fast.

[andrewsmith]

Originally Posted by Owenski

I thought the IAM rule was based on 20-20. Ie you ride no faster than 20mph faster than the traffic you're filtering until the traffic you're filtering reaches 20mph (in which case you're now travelling at 40mph) and should then rejoin traffic.

The speed at which I'll decide to filter is directly related to the speed at which I think I need to be travelling. If I'm late and the M621 (2lanes) are doing 50 I'll tuck in between and carry on at what feels reasonable, similarly if I'm well ahead of time I'll stay in lane and follow suit.
Its the same on every road though, if I'm not in a hurry I wont cut to the front at a set of lights (unless its a huggggggeee que), but generally anything less than 10cars and ill stay in line... unless Im trying to get somewhere/save some time then I wont hesitate.

Guess my answer to the OP would be, for me its all relative to the day/situation.

I can't remember exactly, but it was once the road speed (of the vehicles reaches and maintains) 40 mph you are to rejoin the traffic flow.

I know where you're coming from mate, but its a subjective issue and this can run until the cows come home (and Leeds win the Champions league)

Originally Posted by NTECUK

So how do we feel about filtering between 2 trucks one going 55mph the other 57 mph on dual carriage ways?

Ive done it. But i dont like it and i avoid it now. For a couple of reasons. If they start to close the gap between them you have a much loooooooooooonger way to go to escape out the front. And in the past couple of years i have witnessed two lorry tyre blow outs. And all the time you see shredded lorry tyres on the side of the road. If one blew next to you and you were in between 2 lorrys where do you have to go except down and maybe under one of the lorrys? It would kill you instantly!

[Balky001]

Originally Posted by Spank86

Best done fast.

Agree, less time between the two the better. Obviously lots of other circumstances to consider but that goes with all filtering.

I found the most dangerous filtering was in slow to nearly stationary traffic (the commute) as people tend to look for gaps or are bored and distracted by phones/radio/watching the world go by/late for work. They are going slow so think they are safe whatever they do. Also you are passing loads of cars so need to read relatively lots of reactions in a few seconds

I've never had two cars come together door to door at 70mph on a dual carriageway/m-way and not leave enough room if there was room already. You know if someone is wandering in their lane during your approach and you generally have had plenty of time to observe compared with filtering past lines of very slow moving traffic.

Originally Posted by Serdna

If one blew next to you and you were in between 2 lorrys where do you have to go except down and maybe under one of the lorrys? It would kill you instantly!

depends how quick you can stop.

the lorries can only move closer while they're travelling along road so if you're moving at a faster or slower speed they should collide infront or behind you.


Let me know how that works.

^^^^ LOL!
I must say that I liked Woogieuk's video, but why did he stop at 1.16 and 1.35?