CBT not enough?

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

What the hell is wrong with that?

Half of people on bikes have that "image" mentality or at least start on bikes due to image and then find out it is awesome.

So no it shouldn't be made harder. The EU c*nts are killing our way of life with their stupid stupid licensing laws and you're calling for it to be harder? Have you taken complete leave of your senses?

because its the same way giving someone a lambo to look good in and full know they are going to open the throttle first thing

[yorkie_chris]

The idiots will do that regardless. Punishing and making biking impossible for everyone else is not the way to avoid this behavior.

If people want to get on a bike and scare the crap out of themselves in the first minute we do not have a moral right to stop them let alone an obligation.


You've had your chance to jump on a bike and be a muppet... and now it's not right for anyone else to?

[ethariel]

Originally Posted by timwilky

I think back to when I was a kid, you get a lid, 250, insurance and L plates all at the local dealers and ride out on your new pride and joy. Hopefully the dealer will point out the controls. A CBT is a big step forward from those days.

Exactly me too (well a 125 at least)!

Had the good fortune to meet a great bunch of folks not long after gertting it, one of whom rode pillion and was happy to deliver 'kidney rabbit punch therapy' when i did some thing retarded and simple abuse when doing someting silly. I learned fast................

[Bibio]

in the old days the idiots died and the wise survived. seemed to work pretty well back then. CBT etc.etc makes no odds if your a knob your a knob end of. personally i would like to see the knobs crash and give up on biking so i'm all for doing away with the CBT and making it easier to get a licence.

now they are making the test supposedly harder the knobs come out with a full licence thinking they are a better rider for it which is complete borlox. you either have it in you to ride a bike properly or you don't and NO amount of training is going to make you a better rider than your natural ability. its the same as your IQ, your born with it and no amount of reading or studying is going to make you more intelligent than you are.

[timwilky]

Originally Posted by Bibio

in the old days the idiots died and the wise survived. seemed to work pretty well back then. CBT etc.etc makes no odds if your a knob your a knob end of. personally i would like to see the knobs crash and give up on biking so i'm all for doing away with the CBT and making it easier to get a licence.

now they are making the test supposedly harder the knobs come out with a full licence thinking they are a better rider for it which is complete borlox. you either have it in you to ride a bike properly or you don't and NO amount of training is going to make you a better rider than your natural ability. its the same as your IQ, your born with it and no amount of reading or studying is going to make you more intelligent than you are.

I think you are been rather unfair. I had a number of friends die, predominately due to their lack of experience at a time where you had to simply ride round the block a couple of times without being seen to fall off or do something silly.

This was a time when there were no riding schools or instructors. You hoped a mate who had passed his test would tell you what it involved and you practiced for that.

The test had to improve, far too many inexperienced riders featuring in the KSI figures. It will never be perfect.

I see young riders behave stupidly simply because they do not know the rules of the road and what should be common sense. I have seen old riders behave stupidly because the roads/traffic and bikes have changed.

I admit I am a weekend warrior. But, I ride within my comfort zone. That is why I still have my 10 year old 600, simply because I still know that it is capable of more than I am. Oh and I bought it to match my leathers.

Going back to the beginning of this thread CBT never existed for me but I was still riding a Honda Super Dream Sport[250cc] on "L" plates capable of 100mph. I did not start with this but a FB Bantam and to me even then it was about making progress slowly and improving as you went along.I used to ride a 650 with a chair which was my uncles as a learner. I think that just because somebody passes CBT they must be completely delusional if they think that they are a fully fledge rider, even after 50 years I can still learn little tips and take heed from others better qualified than me. Unfortunately road sense is only something that normally comes through experience and even then doesn't always sink in with some people

Originally Posted by Dicky Ticker

I was still riding a Honda Super Dream Sport[250cc] on "L" plates capable of 100mph.

What did you do to get that speed? Mine would barely hit 80 on a good day, downhill & with a following wind!

[NTECUK]

Dicky a. 250 honda s dream never did 100 mph unles it fell of a cliff.which was the best look for it.
RD boys rule lol

[rictus01]

Originally Posted by NTECUK

Dicky a. 250 honda s dream never did 100 mph unles it fell of a cliff.which was the best look for it.
X7 boys rule lol

corrected for you.....

[NTECUK]

Ha ha .
The LC soon put that to rights