Pointy suspension & brake upgrades?

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

* Try the same thing on a stocker that I could do with mine comfortably and you'd probably die.

Just noticed this.

Thank you, first time I've laughed today.

Don't you just love the pub talk on forums? My Dad's bigger than your Dad too.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by PyroUK

will keep YC in mind but if his name is a true indication of location as opposed to a serious fondness of chocolate then that may not be an option.

errr both

[Bibio]

Originally Posted by agent wayward

However, my point remains, a standard pointy SV needs no modification to be ridden on UK roads. If you're running out of bike for the road, then you are a legend and I will bow down before you.

i think you had better bow down before me. i have a fully tricked out sorted SV and i can take it to the limits on single track roads never mind A roads. i have even come to the shortfalls of the internals of the standard GSXR 600 k4 forks that are fitted and so doing have just spent a considerable amount of £ to sort them out but this will be an ongoing thing till i get the shim stack right for my riding style.

now when i say single track roads i'm on about the kind you find in Scotland that are more potholes than tarmac.

could i ride like i do with a standard SV.. ermm no and i would be dead if i tried.

each to their own and all that.

Originally Posted by Bibio

i have a fully tricked out sorted SV and i can take it to the limits on single track roads never mind A roads.

I am kneeling before you in the shadow of your awesomeness.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by agent wayward

Just noticed this.

Thank you, first time I've laughed today.

Don't you just love the pub talk on forums? My Dad's bigger than your Dad too.

Must have been a pretty slow day

The point may be exaggerated but it stands, go round a proper corner with some proper bumps and bits of dead sheep on it on stock suspension versus proper suspension and the difference is night and day. Bouncing sliding tyre ripping terror... or the exact same pace, comfortably.

It's not about running out of bike for the road, it's about running out of talent for the bike!

Originally Posted by agent wayward

Just for clarification, I do not and never have owned a standard bike. All of my bikes are modified, mostly because I enjoy doing it.

However, my point remains, a standard pointy SV needs no modification to be ridden on UK roads. If you're running out of bike for the road, then you are a legend and I will bow down before you.

Spend your money by all means, I do, but I don't kid myself either.

I once spent many thousands on a Ducati Multistrada, a fine handling bike out of the box, to make it perfect. It was superb, but it didn't actually need any of it.

Yeah the front dives a bit. And?

So so inaccurate. The weight of the rider has an awful lot to do with how the standard set-up feels. Then riding style etc comes in. For a heavier rider of 14 stone + the front end dive is magnified. The brakes are good no doubt but as has been said, with sh!t suspension it will exacerbate dive.

Then consider riding all year round. In the wet and the frost the front instability under breaking makes things worse in these conditions.

Then look at the condition of the suspension and brakes. The front forks can get pitted, brakes corroded, fork oil unchanged. All have an impact on performance, especially if you buy used. Of course, best practice is to clean regularly, maintain & service properly but the fundamental issues will remain.

So to improve a budget bike with good handling is far more beneficial to improving the likes of a Strada.

[Bibio]

Originally Posted by agent wayward

I am kneeling before you in the shadow of your awesomeness.

well since your down there how about a BJ

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

it's about running out of talent for the bike!

Precisely. That was my point.

Most mortals will run out of talent way before a stock pointy 650.

I think it might be an idea to move on from this before egos get to a really stupid level.

Originally Posted by Bibio

well since your down there how about a BJ

Nobody is that good.

[Bibio]

Originally Posted by agent wayward

Nobody is that good.

worth a try