Bereaved family releases shocking video

[TamSV]

Originally Posted by Phoenix22

Just re-watch the last few seconds of that clip & imagine what you would do if you were stupid enough to be in that situation? I would just turn right a bit & avoid the tosser in the car altogether.

I'm not so sure, I had cause to read a fatal accident inquiry a while ago where a police driver in an unmarked car had a car pull in front of him like this. If he'd gone the other way he would have avoided it but there was expert evidence that what he did was the natural reaction to move away from the danger. Police driver training and many years experience weren't enough to overcome that reaction.

TBH I don't think the point of this vid is to apportion blame to this particular incident - that's already been settled. It's unfortunate that the biker was doing the speed he was because I reckon a lot of people will just latch on to that and discard the lesson that might be learned.

The idea is surely to remind us that fairly minor mistakes, when coupled with bad luck and timing, can end very badly.

Car drivers need to Think Bike and bikers need to Think Car. Treat driving/riding with the respect it deserves.

[kaivalagi]

Here here, well said!

It's very much about rider skill. No matter if the driver of the car was at fault or not he just rode straight into it despite a very clear escape route to the right of it,.

I can't quite understand what this woman is saying or hoping to achieve by releasing this footage.

you could go left and the driver could keep on, like he did... you could go right and the driver could see you and slam the brakes.

Either one could result in you hitting the car. Eagle eye hindsight is all very well but you seldom know the result before hand. I've been round someone on the wrong side of the road before because I went right and they hit the brakes just over the white line so I kept going right all the way to the edge of the road. It worked out, but it could just as easily have not.

[kaivalagi]

Originally Posted by Phoenix22

I can't quite understand what this woman is saying or hoping to achieve by releasing this footage.

She probably hopes that the rest of us don't go through that nightmare, whether we be car drivers causing an accident and having to live with the results or if we are bikers putting ourselves at risk.

The only thing to come from this is that car drivers don't always see you and that it's best to plan for the worst, which in that scenario means don't be an idiot near junctions with traffic.

There is absolutely no point playing out what could have been with this accident, just think on about what is the right thing to do in a higher risk scenario like it.

Whichever way, get this woman off national TV . Her son rode like a **** and crashed because he was going to fast for the prevailing conditions without looking where the fook he was going. Did she mention that? No: I didn't see that either.

[TamSV]

It's possibly tough, having just buried your child, to be overly critical of them.

So you saying that kind of riding is OK as long as greaving parent?

Fortunately none of my kids ride motorcycles, but if they did i would do my utmost to try & train them to avoid situations like this.

I survived the manic 2 stroke mayhem of the 80's & statistically i shouldn't be still alive today. I managed to scrape through tho somehow over the years by not riding straight into every car that happened to turn into my path!!!!!!!!

[MisterTommyH]

I think the point is a bit of compassion for the woman who's just lost her child doesn't cost any of us anything.

She obviously felt that publishing the video would be worth it if it stopped one biker riding like that, or one car crossing a filter without looking.

She wasn't the one riding... ease up on her.

[kaivalagi]

She's grieving for a loss, and she's not likely to critique his riding now is she, but I would imagine she knows it wasn't good thanks to him being dead now. He f'ed up paid the ultimate price...something we can all take heed of I think!