Russian army casulties

[Bibio]

we all have our views.

but tell me this. do you want to see more bloodshed? if not then tell me the answer to stop the fighting..... do you want to see our troops come home in body bags? no, then i suggest that the UK stays the fuk out of it.

i have no "red line" its politicians that have them. its politicians that wage war. if war was down to a vote of the people there would be no or very very little war.

am i appalled at what is going on in the Ukraine.. fuk yes.. what has it got to do with me... sod all apart from being human and sympathy.

if it comes down to Putin levelling cities then he will and there is nothing we can do about it as it would be an act of war which will spark MAD. do you want that?

its a war between Russia and the Ukraine......... and until different then we all need to let them get on with it.

[Seeker]

Originally Posted by Bibio

we all have our views.

but tell me this. do you want to see more bloodshed? if not then tell me the answer to stop the fighting..... do you want to see our troops come home in body bags?

I would prefer not to see more bloodshed. However, I believe some things are worth fighting for and this is one such.
I was in the RAF which was a great way to get tech training but I accepted that I would have had to fight if told to do so (and I knew I would be fodder). Our base didn't have exercises but we travelled to bases that had regular tacevals (tactical evaluations) in anticipation of fighting the USSR.

Ignoring Ukraine means that sooner or later it's likely we would be next.

[Ruffy]

Originally Posted by Seeker

Ignoring Ukraine means that sooner or later it's likely we would be next.

Reinforcing this point of view, many say that we are now seeing the consequences of ignoring the previous action against Crimea. So, the modus operandi is already clear and visible ...

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by Bibio

BTW if say the Chinese invaded Scotland tomorrow we would surrender. why? well simple there is 1000 of them to one of us and they have a lot more weapons. would i be happy about it.. dont know till it happens and the circumstances it brings. after all Scotland is ruled by England. Scotland ruled by England ?! also Wales was concurred but do they moan about being British.

life goes on. not in Ukraine for a lot of people !

btw i condemn all war. but i would never resort to calling the leader of a country a BAS***D or C**NT due to their actions. Why not ? I am sure a lot of people would shoot the BAS***D if they could for what he id doing in Ukraine

Please see my comments in green above.

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by Seeker

I would prefer not to see more bloodshed. However, I believe some things are worth fighting for and this is one such.
I was in the RAF which was a great way to get tech training but I accepted that I would have had to fight if told to do so (and I knew I would be fodder). Our base didn't have exercises but we travelled to bases that had regular tacevals (tactical evaluations) in anticipation of fighting the USSR.

Ignoring Ukraine means that sooner or later it's likely we would be next.

Exactly, Putin will walk in to countries that aren't in Nato at least if he can. Bombarding civilian areas to force refugees to flee is part of his strategy. He wants to destabilise Europe.

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by Ruffy

Reinforcing this point of view, many say that we are now seeing the consequences of ignoring the previous action against Crimea. So, the modus operandi is already clear and visible ...

Exactly, as others have said ,Putin would like to recreate the old USSR. He will invade as many European countries as he is allowed to. From what he has said he has basically threatened to start a world war if anybody tries to stop him.
I don't know what the answer is but he has to be stopped somehow.