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Old 10-02-05, 05:02 PM   #31
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Yeah, a lot of the legislation brought in by the current government is crap.
But just because we dont agree with it does not give us the right to ignore it. If that was the case, i would be breaking the law all the time!
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Old 10-02-05, 05:08 PM   #32
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If that was the case, i would be breaking the law all the time!
I do break the law pretty much everytime I go out on the bike.
I won't deny that I speed alot but speeding and riding without a license are two entirely different things.
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Old 10-02-05, 10:59 PM   #33
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Like I said, its up to him......... If he's aware of the consequences then its up to him.

Everyone has a different spin on this issue, so lets just leave it for the fifth time.

But (lighting the blue touchpaper) I urge everyone to practise as much civil disobediance as possible, if for no other reason to see how much fun it is.......

Dan "**** the police" SV
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Old 10-02-05, 11:03 PM   #34
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But (lighting the blue touchpaper) I urge everyone to practise as much civil disobediance as possible, if for no other reason to see how much fun it is.......
B*ll*cks to the rest of what you said, but I agree with this sentiment entirely.
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Old 10-02-05, 11:30 PM   #35
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Yea, don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that what this lad is doing isn't illegal, im just simply saying I don't really care. In my opinion de-restricting a bike illegally, ranks in the same category as illegally going over the speed limit (by accident of course you must understand officer), and fitting an illegal race can, and illegally pulling a cheeky wheelie.

These laws I feel are set as a target to break, and I like to meet my targets regularly........

And just to throw yet another spin on this, how many of you illegally de-restricted your 50's when you had them? Does that not technically invalidate your insurance, and also mean you were riding without a license??

And ok, just to pre-empt what people may say, you can argue that riding an illegally de-restricted bike, is like riding without a license, or insurance.

But bearing in mind, it can be argued that the SV is a girls bike, and we ALL know how silly that statement is don't we.

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Old 10-02-05, 11:33 PM   #36
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And ok, just to pre-empt what people may say, you can argue that riding an illegally de-restricted bike, is like riding without a license, or insurance.

But bearing in mind, it can be argued that the SV is a girls bike, and we ALL know how silly that statement is don't we.

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Uh huh. But riding a derestricted bike on a restricted license is riding without a license, there's no interpretation there. It's like someone with a car license driving an artic...
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Old 10-02-05, 11:47 PM   #37
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i put the original post up when i first got the bike and NEVER intended on upsetting people. i'm on a full license now and had a trouble free few months. i completely knew what i was invalidating when i took the washers out but there are FAR worse law breaking motorcyclists out there. and i know a lot of them as i work in the motorcycle industry and i meet them every day! as it goes i have experience with bikes over 100bhp and all i was getting to was about 65bhp when i took the washers out. i have also passed my car test recently so i think i'll go and buy a Nissan Skyline R34, even though i have been driving a car for a total of 12 hours. ok ok, i dont have the money for the Skyline, but if i did there is no law from stopping me from buying it. now at what point is that fair or safe?

well thats me ranted out and cheers to Dan_SV for you "support"
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Old 10-02-05, 11:47 PM   #38
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I'm not interpreting, technically it is illegal, there is no doubt about that.

I just see it as small fry, if you want to, then go ahead, if you don't want to, then don't.

Good luck to either rider, their decision, their license getting ripped up and their wallet being emptied if they get caught.

I don't want to repeat myself, different opinions, different viewpoints, different ways of arguing/seeing it etc.

My opinion is different to a lot of other peoples. End of story.

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Old 11-02-05, 01:48 AM   #39
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Well,i cant add much to all the views that have already been expressed except to say today i put a deposit on a black k5 and asked for a restrictor...it being fuel injected means suzuki change the box and hold onto the original.....de-restricting it involves asking for the box back and signing a form etc.....all nice and trackable.

I'ld like to be able to derestrict it for a few hours to see what its like....but then again that would probably keep me entirely ****ed off for 2 years.
**** it...gives me something to look forward to.
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Old 11-02-05, 03:18 PM   #40
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i put the original post up when i first got the bike and NEVER intended on upsetting people.
If you've taken anything I've said as an attack on you mate, please don't- I figured the old parts of the thread were so long ago it was just a general discussion rather than a specific guy we were talking about...

FWIW, I'm perfectly fine with people doing it, as long as they know what they're getting into... If I see a post here about how easy and safe it is I'll post up the possible consequences so that other people know what can happen if it all goes wrong, but I try not to tell people that they shouldn't do it.

it is important that people thinking of doing it themselves understand how much trouble they can get into, I think... A guy I vaguely know binned his derestricted RS125, and got found out- he's 18 years old and had to declare bankrupt after the court case, he'll be uninsurable for years and that bankruptcy's going to affect him for far longer... And under the new bankruptcy laws he'll probably still have to repay some of the £20000-odds he owed to the insurance (not sure about that one though) Just for something stupid he did once. I don't feel sorry for him for getting caught, but if he'd known what could happen I'm sure he wouldn't have done it.
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