How do you go fast?

Originally Posted by Mogs

Don’t worry about speed, that comes with practice, concentrate on being on the correct line so that you can see best (and be seen) around corners.

Here! Here!

I was (maybe still am?) a slower than avaerage rider. Always the last one on rideouts etc...

Anyway, I grabed some advanced training. Getting the correct line was one part, another part was various countersteering techniques. But the lines alone made the most difference.

In Just under 20K of rideing in 2.5years (11.5 on my sv in the past 12months), and I didn't top a ton until about a month ago. Dont worry about speed. Go at your own pace, otherwise you will get into trouble.

A good guide is the police roadcraft book, it explains lots of techniques to aid your cornering, positioning along with observation etc...So this could help.

Anyway HTH
Dan

wel may be its the bike i had a GS500 and it sucked the worst bike ive ever had! when i took corners above 70 i would get front end woobles and at about 80 the back end would stat to twich n tray and throw me off!

alltho i did mange to get through chedder at about 80 - 90 lol .... ( this wos my own private chedder gordge by the way hehe )

so yeah GS500 sucks!

For sure countersteering is not for Trojan just yet and then some! Believe it or not I have only become truly aware of it's value in the last 12 months or so.I guess I must have always used some as I have always hooned through bends.But now I understand it more and consciously look to employ it. Late breaking and throwing it in later...it's a great buzz.It also means you are cranked over for less time and to lesser degree but able to hold higher speeds when doing so.(Does that sound correct guys?! )
Countersteering below say 30mph has no benefit and as stated could actually create problems.I personally have found that using both arms in unison,(push with inner arm and pull with outer) when counterstering gives me a better all around feeling?

Originally Posted by suzsv650

Well, maybe it's the bike, I had a GS500 and it sucked, the worst bike I've ever had! When I took corners above 70 I would get front end wobbles and at about 80 the back end would start to twitch and try to throw me off!

Although I did manage to get through Cheddar at about 80 - 90 lol .... ( this was my own private Cheddar Gorge by the way hehe )

so yeah GS500 sucks!

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Originally Posted by Peter Henry

For sure countersteering is not for Trojan just yet and then some!...

I'm not really sure why anyone is saying this. You can quite push the bars as hard as you like if you're going at a reasonable pace, and nothing bad will happen. In fact, at any decent speed the bike is so stable you HAVE to conciously counter-steer to make it change direction.

When I learned to ride "Countersteering" was yet to be invented, Yes you did it, but it came natural, you certainly didn't think about it.

All this theory can be confusing and you don't need to know about it to pass the 60mph barrier.

I think between us all we have probably fried the guys head by now. Im amazed at how crap so many of you are at riding bikes (no offense lol!), no wonder so many people crash the things! If your not confident going over 15mph, then maybe bikes just aint for you! There are times when slow just isnt safe aswell!

Like today I was filtering between two lanes of traffic when the lights when green so I was stuck between two rows of moving cars, both cars either side of me started to move slightly towards the centre line and I was a bit cramped, so basically I had to kane it through the middle of 6 or so cars to get out of trouble. Now was that the safe move? I think it was.

But what does mr 'safe' do in that situation? ooooh no I must not break the speed limit, so I will keep riding here like a sitting duck and most likely be knocked off and eat tarmac! Im starting to realise that people who say they are safe because they only do 30mph are actually just paranoid! and in my opinion a danger to themselves!

ahhhh I feel better now!

BY the way my SV is for sale, 2004 with 5000 miles full faired, black - make me an offer!

Originally Posted by Peter Henry/Mogs

For sure countersteering is not for Trojan just yet and then some!...

Exactly.

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

You can quite push the bars as hard as you like if you're going at a reasonable pace, and nothing bad will happen.

What planet are you on?

In fact, at any decent speed the bike is so stable you HAVE to conciously counter-steer to make it change direction.

Now I'm seriously worried.


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It's true, the faster you go the more stable the bike becomes.

Squirrel...I have to say that I am glad Jonboy has made comment exactly on the lines as I was thinking in response to you. Sorry my friend but you are way off mark with what you are saying there.