Which best describes your attitude to undertaking?

Originally Posted by Jabba-the-Hutt

It should only be carried out on the clinically dead and by bona-fide Funeral Directors.

Very good Jabba your powers of humour are strong

Originally Posted by jonboy

Not so. Merely contrary to the Highway Code. Certainly disapproved of by the local Plod but not in itself a bookable offence.

Does this include doing it at 120mph

I honestly don't believe it's different to any other manoeuvre. Provided you're confident of the situation and take due care, then it's no different to passing a vehicle on the inside when their lane is going slower than yours.

Agreed

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Yeah I know it is wrong and try to avoid doing it,however as mentioned this culture of"Right I am in this lane and this is where I am staying!" Just p*sses me off. I always assess long and hard before making the manouvre and always ensure the offending car driver gets a bloody good idea about how p*ssed I am!

There are too many drivers who simply believe that due to them passing a test, the roads are for their use only.Anyone else having the audacity to use "their " roads can just jolly well do so when "I" have finished my important progress!

Driving or riding a bike is not just getting from A to B as quickly as possible.

Driving or riding a bike is being aware of other road users and being willing and able to proceed in a safe manner withou unduly preventing others from doing the same.
Believe it or not, occasionally having to change lanes, stopping to allow someone to pass etc. Are key elements of road use. Not just the "F*ck you" attitude.

Here in Spain they do not seem to understand so many of the basics. It is like they refuse to move in to the inside lane as that will create more opportunities where they will have to move out again to get passed a slower vehicle etc. THAT IS DRIVING FOR GOD?S SAKE!

You feel better now you got that off your chest.

I found with my one time trip to Spain on the bike that they were very bike aware and always made the effort to move out the way for you, even when they didn't have to.

[Red ones]

"I was just making progress through the traffic, Officer!"


Yes I do it everyday. Usually lane 2 or 3 is full of people who don't want to move over in case they don't get 'their' space back when they approach the slower vehicle in the inside lane. (Ironic isn't it? If everyone moved over then the space would be there!) The Highway Code is slightly ambiguous on the matter:


241: Do not overtake unless you are sure it is safe to do so.
Overtake only on the right. You should

check your mirrors
take time to judge the speeds correctly
make sure that the lane you will be joining is sufficiently clear ahead and behind
take a quick sideways glance into the blind spot area to verify the position of a vehicle that may have disappeared from your view in the mirror
remember that traffic may be coming up behind you very quickly. Check your mirrors carefully. When it is safe to do so, signal in plenty of time, then move out
ensure you do not cut in on the vehicle you have overtaken
be especially careful at night and in poor visibility when it is harder to judge speed and distance.

242: Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.



So if I have read this correctly I am allowed only to overtake on the right hand side, unless the traffic in the right lane is travelling slower than me. I am not allowed to weave in through the traffic, but I am allowed to overtake on the right if safe to do so. It, therefore, follows that I can choose the fastest moving lane at any time (assuming I do not exceed the speed limit - Rule 235) Should the traffic slow sufficiently I am not barred from filtering.


As an aside I was followed only this morning by an unmarked car whilst doing this at speed. They were not interested.

Voted for no.6 (like most others) but would have voted no.7 if this thread had been posted a few years back when I had to use the M66/M62 every day Did some REALLY stupid things back then that scare the sh*t out of me just thinking about them now (older and wiser and all that).
Nowadays I only undertake if stuck behind a lane hogger and it's safe to do so.

Originally Posted by Peter Henry

Here in Spain they do not seem to understand so many of the basics. It is like they refuse to move in to the inside lane as that will create more opportunities where they will have to move out again to get passed a slower vehicle etc. THAT IS DRIVING FOR GOD?S SAKE!

I agree with you, thats what hacks me off about British drivers

One thing that i've noticed is that in Germany they are really good at moving back in after an overtake

Originally Posted by rubberduckofdeath

Isn't that because they (the police) pull you for sitting in the wrong lane?

Quite possibly but its top draw policing if you ask me

Ape...You are correct, many will let bikes go by. But believe me when you spend more time here,(like living?) many things take on a true reality! And there are far too many comatose people who have clicked auto pilot on when they drive.

BTW Highway Code? What's that all about then? Oh yeah I remember all those fuddy duddy rules you have to abide by in the UK! Did I tell you I love Spain?

[timwilky]

I drive about 700 miles a week on the M6, I have to undertake, there can be times when I have travelled in excess of a mile in the middle lane udertaking about 20 plus cars and not one will shift out of that 3rd lane.


OK I don't really blame them, they too all want to go faster than some prat at the front. I have occasionally got to that front obstacle and vented my spleen at them, but they have their blinkers on. The limit is 70, that is what I am doing and I will stop you going any faster.

Usually a 70 year old Doris in a 1.0L Micra