Vid of Road Bike Crash

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Originally Posted by Carsick

I did have a long reply typed up but then I hit the wrong button and closed the browser.
I won't retype it but I'll just give a quick summary.

1. She could have reacte before the car became out of control. I believe she could not have avoided an accident once the car started to skid.2. Since when did luck come into a proper plan? I might end up hoping that luck will save me, but only when I've messed up (happens to me alot , but I'm not an "experienced rider")
3. I'm not quite sure how's that's relevent. Are you suggesting she was hoping it would stop further away? It didn't stop further away and even if the car hadn't spun and had simply swerved into her lane and continued moving, she would probably have still rear-ended it.

Have I offended you or the rider with my poor taste comments on how a non-serious accident could have been avoided?
I'd hope like hell that if I filmed a similar accident I would be told what I could have done and maybe that would make me a better rider. I sure as hell need the help.

I honestly don't understand your opposition to this point of view. I'm only expressing a similar opinion to Sid and you've admitted that he has a point.
I'm not looking for an apology. I don't care if you apologise and you can say I talk ******** all you like.

Nasty situation and glad she got off without serious harm.

I have to say I agree with almost all you have said but disagree with the highlighted bit. IMO at that point it was still avoidable. Cast iron proof later

Cheers
Ben

Ben...You are indeed a considerate chap to humour me in such a manner!

The first time I watched it, as with other people comments here, I was thinking something from the right was going to happen, I totally didn't see or expect the 180 from the left. Judging by my first play of the video, I doubt I would have avoided that either, it is so totally unexpected. However now that I have played it 100 times, I reckon I could have avoided it. But the key thing here is that poor girl had to react the first time, with no prior knowledge of what was going to happen.

I think it would have taken anybody out.

Originally Posted by Warthog

I think it would have taken anybody out.

Indeed, for future referance, had that been me on her bike, I would have crashed even more impressively, perhaps a driver door, mid-air pirouette, face first into the tarmac manoeuvre.

Originally Posted by Warthog

I think it would have taken anybody out.

That I'm not convinced of. Certainly very experienced riders that I know (Rictus, Sid Squid) might well have avoided it as they would have observed the speed that the car was catching up the white car and planned accordingly. This does of course take into account that a certain "sixth sense" or extremely heightened sense of awareness exists with the rider, and it's something that only thousands and thousands of miles of road experience will give you, and only then if you're naturally atuned in that way.

Remember that what we see on the video distorts the picture a little as we're not seeing it quite as the human eye would have done and therefore in reality it would have appeared a little different.

I probably would have stuffed it too, though would like to think differently .


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Jonboy....Again I accept your considered comments,but even with my own (28years...ouch!) I really don't see how it could have actually been avoided? Other than her slamming on before he even braked on a pure impulse? That in itself could have seen her walloped from behind?

But then again...maybe something Supermotard-ish with high bars that offer more leaverage could have seen a back wheel slide which might possibly have reduced the impact? I really don't know........

Possibly could have escaped to the left of the car, but that option doesnt open until very late. Could have slammed on the anchors earlier if by some miracle you'd be that paranoid... no garuntee that would have worked either.

I think a certain amount of luck would be required either way.

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I think we have to remember, the camera she was using was a bullet style, the do distort the image quite a bit. As was already said, what we see will have been quite diffrent to what she sees.

Originally Posted by Peter Henry

Jonboy....Again I accept your considered comments,but even with my own (28years...ouch!) I really don't see how it could have actually been avoided? Other than her slamming on before he even braked on a pure impulse? That in itself could have seen her walloped from behind?

But then again...maybe something Supermotard-ish with high bars that offer more leaverage could have seen a back wheel slide which might possibly have reduced the impact? I really don't know........

Nah, front brake on, then off, a big dollop of throttle and bunny-hop straight over the top .


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You could probably work out whether she could have stopped by looking at the speed and braking distance. Now I wouldn't necesarily slam on the brakes as that other car started breaking, only when you see its wheels start lock up (you can't just brake when any old car brakes next to you!). From then on (as someone commented) its about 2 seconds to the crash, and going at 40 or 50 (she reckoned in her subsequent post), does that work out as possible? ( I can't be @rsed to work it out hehe).

Also, I don't personally reckon that that black car WAS that close to the car in front, I don't see them as definitely colliding, and therefore it wouldn't make me as wary.