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Old 03-04-06, 07:27 PM   #31
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is R the faired version and S the other, i want the S.
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Old 03-04-06, 08:08 PM   #32
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They were both faired, the S was the first model with the dodgy rotary damper, and the R was the slightly tamer and modified version.


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Old 03-04-06, 08:10 PM   #33
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the R was the full faired WSB racer that never was.

The S was the road bike.
Didn't the R have the rotary thingy?
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Old 03-04-06, 08:13 PM   #34
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No, they were both road bikes, the R was the later and final model.


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Old 03-04-06, 08:14 PM   #35
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the R was the full faired WSB racer that never was.

The S was the road bike.
Didn't the R have the rotary thingy?
IIRC they both had a rotary rear damper.
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Old 03-04-06, 08:14 PM   #36
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yes...but wasn't the idea of the TL-R to make it the basis for a WSB entry?
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Old 03-04-06, 08:16 PM   #37
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yes...but wasn't the idea of the TL-R to make it the basis for a WSB entry?
I think that you are correct. However Suzuki couldnt make it work as WSB racer.
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Old 03-04-06, 08:22 PM   #38
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I think the prob with the TL-S, TL-R, and VTR and following on to the SV thou is that they are niche bikes fitting a small market.

I remember some journos in the late '90s gushing about litre V-twins as the holy grail and then the R1 came out and that was the end of that

I am surprised that Suzuki have no replacement...might as well keep it on the books until the new kid appears.
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Old 03-04-06, 08:28 PM   #39
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bring back the WIDOW MAKER!
was that the TLR ?
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It was the TLS, but it's not as bad as described by some people who are trying to make themselves sound hard by telling you it's so bad.
More specificly i think, a standard 97' model without the steering damper & rear rotary damper. Later the TLS was recalled for a steering damper. Very few are on the secondhand market withouth these two bits being changed.

The original TLS 97' is the most powerfull model they made for the TLS range, after that they seemed to restrict the engine.

Also the TLR had a kit that would make it into a race bike, it was good but not enough and too late.

The TLR also had a rotary damper, but they changed the design, giving it more fins to keep it cool which was the problem before. There was also something else done.
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I think half the problem is that large capacity v-twins aren't anywhere near as easy to ride as an IL4, the brutal low down grunt can be quite intimidating to an inexperienced rider, which an awful lot of colour-co-ordinated weekend warriors are - however if it says Ducati on the tank then they're prepared to put up with it (sorry Peter ).

Then add in the fact that Suzuki made it look so dull that aspiring litre riders didn't give it more than a second glance, and you have poor sales. The TL had "attitude" written all over it, pity it was such a flawed motorcycle.

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