Careful what you say online about MCN..

Originally Posted by anna

but at this current time it has not been tested in the courts about what gets said a forum environment however it is widely anticipated that should anything get that far that the courts will take the opinion that the mods/admin of a site act as editors of the forum and therefore are liable for what gets said.. not necessarily the individual that originally may have expressed their opinion!

It has been tested in the courts, particularly the US, UK and Australia.

For some further info:

http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/apr1999/int-a16.shtml
http://www.ojr.org/ojr/law/1033079636.php
http://lawzone.thelawyer.com/cgi-bin...05&h=207&f=259
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2587057.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/freespeech...861890,00.html
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/...c=online_libel
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/new...737001,00.html

The last one was a case concluded in court on 22nd March this year.

End of the day, I dont think they will sue for people referring to them as More Crap than News because ultimately its an opinion based on what individuals deem the quality of the articles to be.

ie I do it because Im fed up of over sensationalised scaremongering of biking to be killed off [which they can not prove is actually going to happen], 600 shoot outs [because no-one buys anything other than a sport 600 right?], misleading articles [this letter WILL get you off a fine - does anyone actually know anyone its worked for? happy to take that back if it has AND no other factor was involved in the withdrawal and the Ducati issue also comes up here - to the point on the official Ducati blog it states theyve run misleading headlines twice] etc etc

Though actively saying they are trying to do something without proof on a site that belongs to an emap employee probably is going to see it withdrawn pdq.

[anna]

Lynw.. .I stand corrected.. I particularly like this quote:-

"UK court officials haven't even learned to program their video recorders yet. They tend to work on very ancient definitions."

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by lynw

I do it because Im fed up of over sensationalised scaremongering of biking to be killed off

I agree with you Lyn, its been particular rubbish over winter when they have nothing to write about, and it hasnt really got better.

I only buy it for the back four of five pages of sport news which IMHO is much better written and researched than the front section of the paper. Also theres small sections of tips on riding and also theres a section on fixing broken bikes which I like to read and thats about it.

What happened to their quartlery MCN sport mag if they did that every month I'd buy that once a month instead of the paper.

MCN Sport folded - I had a subscription.

I thought it was excellent - lavish full colour double spread technoporn

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

What happened to their quartlery MCN sport mag if they did that every month I'd buy that once a month instead of the paper.

I used to subscribe but i got a message saying it had been withdrawn because of insuficent circulation or something to that effect.

Shame really because it was one of the best mags on the market IMO, really suprised it didnt sell more of maybe it was to expensive to produce?

I agree, now there was a good mag. I can only think it didn't sell because of rubbish distribution, I could never find it

Originally Posted by tomjones2

I used to subscribe but i got a message saying it had been withdrawn because of insuficent circulation or something to that effect.

Shame really because it was one of the best mags on the market IMO, really suprised it didnt sell more of maybe it was to expensive to produce?

I wonder if the reason it didnt sell is because too many people see MCN as More Crap than News and the reporting in the paper tarnished the sports mag with the same brush.

Its probably a case of it didnt sell because people suspected it would be a glossier, more expensive version of the paper.

[Spiderman]

did any hear the one about the jewish-japanese restaurant?

























SO SUE ME!

[Red ones]

I think as a forum, we are far better at self regulation than Visor Down can ever manage.

We are more willing to shoot someone down who over steps the mark and (to my opinion) seem to do so publicly, rather than having to rely on the Moderators, though even I have nudged the moderators on occasion to get a result.

Take for example a recent occasion in which a member dissed a dealer publicly - whatever the facts - and I suspect we will never be sure what they are,a large number of members shot the complainant down on the grounds of fairness and accuracy.

Originally Posted by Red ones

I think as a forum, we are far better at self regulation than Visor Down can ever manage.

Disagree with that. Visordown collective come down very heavily when people step out of line. Its an interesting fact you arent probably aware of but the dissed dealer did themselves libel someone on visordown over copyright theft to come up against a wave of opinion which resulted in them deleting the thread pdq afterwards.
Visordown is regulated a lot more than people give credit for. The majority of it is by weight of opinion of the forum, and the mods have banned people for intolerable behaviour recently too.

We are more willing to shoot someone down who over steps the mark and (to my opinion) seem to do so publicly, rather than having to rely on the Moderators, though even I have nudged the moderators on occasion to get a result.

See above reply. Visordown collective is by no means unwilling to shoot people down warranted or not. Visordown shoots people down quite fast and quite viciously at times. This forum when it does it does so when its warranted and does it reasonably. THATS the real difference tbh, because you dont know vd if you think people there wont shoot you down. Id suggest you do a search for any of RS-250-Squids thread to gauge an understanding of what Im talking about.

Take for example a recent occasion in which a member dissed a dealer publicly - whatever the facts - and I suspect we will never be sure what they are,a large number of members shot the complainant down on the grounds of fairness and accuracy.

IIRC I pointed out that it could be considered libellous. I didnt "shoot" him down, well I dont think I did, just tried to get through the anger and point out some consequences. But see above reply re the dissed dealer. They arent squeaky clean on this issue and admit to making a "mistake". Wonder if they'll be magnanimous and apply that to the person in question and allow him a "mistake".