i bought a dodgy bike

If its like my kwak.. then if its in gear, you cannot start it at all with the stand down.. clutch in or not.... now dont get me started on sidestand switches

no no no you mis understud .i think my bike should start in gear, my bike did start in gear,but lately if i tried to start in gear clutch in stand up it would turn over but not enough to start so i had to find N to start

[fizzwheel]

It might be drag on the transmission thats making the bike struggle to turn over...

Mind you if your battery is flat or doesnt have a lot of charge in it what do you expect.

Why do you want to start it in gear for anyway ?

good point, if u stall it its easier

[fizzwheel]

Ah OK, well it should turn over in gear and start after a stall with no trouble...

I know I've done it to. Actually when my reg / rec finally went I stalled on a roundabout in the wet avoiding the back of a car, the bike stalled as I didnt pull the clutch in quickly enough.

I pulled the clutch in and tried to turn the bike over and the battery was flat as pancake, I had enough juice to light the headlights and dash lights, but not enough to turn the starter over.

i was at the lights the other day & an old bloke in a battered van said nice bike ,wanna race so i laughed .....lights changed i stalled(1st time ever honest) & off he went

AFAIK: Mine will only start clutch in & in neutral. Won't start in gear. But then I always start it on hte side stand.

But now you've got me wondering. Maybe I should try a new combination - side stand up, clutch in, first gear. I *must've* tried this before, but now you've got me doubting myself.

Hope you sort the other stuff out.

Originally Posted by Kinvig

AFAIK: Mine will only start clutch in & in neutral. Won't start in gear. But then I always start it on hte side stand.

But now you've got me wondering. Maybe I should try a new combination - side stand up, clutch in, first gear. I *must've* tried this before, but now you've got me doubting myself.

Hope you sort the other stuff out.

Talking about pointies (well, K6 specifically), as I've never ridden a curvy...

Sidestand down, bike has to be in neutral or your starter button wont even work, LCD reads "CHEC". Assuming you're in neutral, you need the clutch in, otherwise the starter doesn't work.

Sidestand up, electronics magic trickery doesn't care about gears, but you still need the clutch in, or you have no starter button.

Personally, I ***LOVE*** the idea of the clutch having to be pulled in for the starter to function. 1) It saves the possibility of me being a numpty & starting in 1st without the clutch 2) It helps save engine wear a little (yes, at the expense of the clutch, I know).

I've had a few cars where you have to have the clutch pedal pressed all the way down or it wont even turn the ignition on!

Hovi5, as for what's wrong with your bike, no idea fella without getting my hands on it with a DMM. Take it to someone local for a second opinion. It might also be worth calling into a small car sales place & asking them about auto-electricians. They usually have 1 or 2 on their books that are well trusted & deal with all their cars. Might find one that knows at least enough to hazard a guess at a bike! Should be nicely priced as well!

[Viney]

Hovis

Second hand rectifiers are more trouble than they are worth unless you know the person thats sold/selling it to you. It sounds like the second hand part is duff as well. The 'mechanic' should be able to check the voltage across the battery simply enough. This will tell you if its Rectifiying etc.

Personaly, id tell this mug to p*ss off and take it to a proper dealer. Yes, it might cost you a few extra pennies, but at least it will work, and you will not be going mad. As for cheap batteries, i have a budget battery on my bike, and it works fine, and has done so far this year.

And...starting your bike. You have 2 switches. One on the clutch and one on the sidestand. The clutch one can play up form time to time, and i have disabled mine, so can now start the bike one handed.

i agree............ i want a NEW reg fitted this time (IF YOU KNEW HOW MUCH I PAID FOR THE ONE THAT HE 'FOUND' ID ME A LAUGHING STOCK if im not that all ready