Worst rider i have seen!! How about you?

I agree I would rather have them in front than behind and I would have loved to waved them pasted but the road was rather twisty and no overtaking points for about 2 miles, so I had them up behind me until the road straighten out and they then shot past (I did move over left for them as well as I aways do when safe to do so).

It was just all very un-nerving having that extra pressure on top of my own pressure to get round a corner thats all.

Give me a few more hundred miles and I'll be fine on them corners.

[timwilky]

You can tell I went to a catholic school. Let him without sin cast the first stone and all that cr@p.

We all have to learn somewhere. Good that the newbie is going out with an experienced rider. But it the experienced one who is in the no win situation. If front and they cannot properly see what the newbie is doing. Behind and they cannot show them the correct line, how to maximise visibility etc.

You only start to learn to ride by putting miles under your belt. We are not born riding gods, you learn by your mistakes and what others show you.

You met a newbie, back off and give them time. Moving onto an ss600 is a lot to take in when yesterday you were probably riding a gutless school er500 etc.

wee tip for all those who dont like cornering. find a nice road with a few twisties and ride it at 30 mph or slower if you wish. making sure you are down the gears. i usually have the bike at about 7000 rpm but thats an sv all bikes are different. find out where the power band of your machine is and keep the bike within that when cornering. it gives you enough engine braking if you feel its too fast without touching the brakes and unstabling the bike. then spend next few hours going up and down the same piece of road, getting the hang of limit point. you can only master this on roads you know but then you can apply it to every corner. There is a road beside me and i went up and down it for about 4 hours one night. ideally dont pick sunday afternoon as you really need t he road pretty much to yourself.

you then are able to put all you learned into practice on roads you have never been on. forward observation and reading the road is the key to fast corners.

[Rich]

Flippin hecky i've caused quite a thread here it seems. I agree with most of your input though, the newbie situation sounds most likely.

But as for what a newbie is im not sure, i class myself as a newbie. I've only been riding 10 months and done just about 6600miles in that time, i still make mistakes and know when to move out the way of others that are far better riders than me.

If she wasn't aware i was there, then for the 8-10miles i was following her backing off, giving her a chance and trying to give her room to do her own thing she couldn't have checked her mirrors once, she must have seen me there up her **** on some of the corners and if it was me or other newbies then i'd have pulled to one side and said you get on with it.

I know what its like, as the rest of you do to have bikes up your ****. It's unnerving for sure, but then for her to go around a corner and slow down ridiculasly to a point that cars are putting they're brakes on too and trying not to go up my **** then it becomes dangerous.

New or not she shouldn't have been riding like that, i didn't when i first got out on my bike. I only went on the roads i knew well, to get used to the bike and corners.

The examiner passed me on my test day knowing i was safe to ride a bike, without putting myself in danger and most of all other road users. After all thats what i thought tests were for ..

[Stu]

Can I just point out one other thing that I was so concerned about I pm'd Rich, hope you don't mind me quoting your reply.

Originally Posted by 1RichSV650

Yeh sure don't mind at all.

The first corner was a left hander, so as i was taking the best line to get a decent view she slammed on the brakes and rode around the gutter, hence me almost getting a head full of rubber!!

The second was a right hander, i took a more left hand position so as not to hang to far over as i could see this lorry coming. She didn't see it and almost lost he head.

Hope that clears things abit for you!!!

So for those of you thinking she was IAM trained, she most certainly was not ( but probably should be before time runs out)

[Rich]

Nah don't mind at all stu, just one thing though. Before soulkiss picks up on it . I meant "almost lost her head" not "he"!!!

[Stu]

Don't worry I think you're safe, he will be remaining very quiet on that subject for a very long time!!!

Aha, well in the light of that it seems I interpreted the two corners in the OP the wrong way round...she was doing the exact opposite of IAM lines

[Rich]

I think i'm starting to make some sense , about time i hear . I mean i wouldn't have minded her going slowly around the corners in the practiced way but she was doing the total opposite. Hense my WTF frame of mind!!!

I imagine it wasn't just frustration/annoyance but, pardon the pun, similar to car crash TV. I think I would tense up a bit if the rider in front of me kept hanging their head into the opposite carriageway on a bend; maybe a bit of a low whistle in my helmet every time they got away with it too!