Gripe of the day - What is yours?

[carelesschucca]

Let him be the first one to be waterboarded. Let's see how he copes.

[Red ones]

It's called torture.
Waterboarding is a word used to cover up what it really is.

[SV650rules]

Originally Posted by Red ones

It's called torture.
Waterboarding is a word used to cover up what it really is.

We are at war folks, considering what is!s and their mates do to captives, normally Christians but can be other Muslims from different branches. Burning alive in a cage, cutting heads off - water boarding is small beer, the moral high ground means nothing to these bast#rds - Obama did nothing to discourage Isis really, and criticised Russia when they took positive action. The bleeding heart liberal and lefties have had their cHance and f#cked up big time, that is why people voted for trump and brexit -more will follow. Liberals don't live in any world I recognise or want to live in.

[Bibio]

hmmm ISIS dont get me started but just think about where they get their weapons from as well as most of the middle east.... its in the UK, USA and Russia's best interest to keep trouble in the middle east and elsewhere. if it was really about humanitarian policy then what about that murdering scumbag Mr Mugabe, nowt done there about the atrocities that he inflicted not only to his own people but also ex-pats of the UK.

i'm sick to the back teeth of the UK sticking its noise in where it should not and as a result we the people of the UK have to spend public funds firing bullets at innocent people not to mention the body bags sent home. bullets cost money and once a bullet is fired it costs the public 100% of that bullet. the unemployed only cost us at the minimum 60% of the money spent as the Gov get the rest back as tax/duty. but its better for the politicians to blame the unemployed for our financial state than dare to blame the endless billions spent on our armed forces. that wont win them votes now will it but a fight against ''terrorists'' will.

[Trev B]

Some people get very rich from war,just as Mrs May signs a £100M pound deals with Turkey for FIGHTER jets,double standards by some !!

[SV650rules]

It is in no ones interest to have murdering scumbags running around who want to destroy the western way of life and take away our hard won freedoms that we take for granted. Hopefully the only way Isis gets weapons is by capturing them from others, although there are obviously crooked arms dealers who would sell their granny for a quick profit. Islam has always posed problems for the west, it is not too long ago that Spain managed to push them out, and most of southern europe has had problems with them at one time or another. The west turned a blind eye to Hitler in the 30's if they had acted when Germany started to rearm (after ww1 they had been banned from building weapons) the second world war could have been avoided, I hope we don't sleep walk into a religious war the same way.

The main responsibility of any government is to protect its citizens, that is what trump wants to do, and was elected to do, both their lives and their jobs - you can tell trump in 4 years time if he has done a good or bad job, you may not like his policies but he has been elected fair and square and is doing what he said during his election campaign. The status quo is no longer an option it needs someone bold at the helm of the most powerful country in the world.

[SV650rules]

Originally Posted by Trev B

Some people get very rich from war,just as Mrs May signs a £100M pound deals with Turkey for FIGHTER jets,double standards by some !!

My enemies enemy is my friend is a well known phrase in foreign policy circles.
Somebody will supply Turkey with weapons, why not support UK jobs.

[Heorot]

We are NOT supplying fighter aircraft to Turkey. The deal is for BaE to provide expertise to help Turkey develop a new aircraft. These programmes typically take around 15 years to come to fruition. Who knows where the world will be in in 15 years time. And remember, a fighter is a defensive aircraft. It is bombers and strike aircraft that are offensive weapons. Personally, as someone who owns property in Turkey, I am somewhat worried about Erdogans aim to make Turkey an Islamic Republic.

[Bibio]

They're 5 miles high as the crow flies
Leavin' vapour trails against a blood red sky
Movin' in from the East toward the West
With Balaclava helmets over their heads, yes!


But if you think that Jesus Christ is coming
Honey you've got another thing coming
If he ever finds out who's hi-jacked his name
He'll cut out his heart and turn in his grave


Islam is rising
The Christians mobilising
The world is on its elbows and knees
It's forgotten the message and worships the creeds


It's war, she cried, It's war, she cried, this is war
Drop your possessions, all you simple folk
You will fight them on the beaches in your underclothes
You will thank the good lord for raising the union jack
You'll watch the ships out of harbour
And the bodies come floating back


if you want to start calling people terrorists then look no further than the history of the UK who at one point in time ruled a large proportion of the world, now you dont do that by being nice. it was not that long ago the UK classed the Irish as terrorists for fighting in what they believed in.

[21QUEST]

Originally Posted by SV650rules

It is in no ones interest to have murdering scumbags running around who want to destroy the western way of life and take away our hard won freedoms that we take for granted. Hopefully the only way Isis gets weapons is by capturing them from others, although there are obviously crooked arms dealers who would sell their granny for a quick profit. Islam has always posed problems for the west, it is not too long ago that Spain managed to push them out, and most of southern europe has had problems with them at one time or another. The west turned a blind eye to Hitler in the 30's if they had acted when Germany started to rearm (after ww1 they had been banned from building weapons) the second world war could have been avoided, I hope we don't sleep walk into a religious war the same way.

The main responsibility of any government is to protect its citizens, that is what trump wants to do, and was elected to do, both their lives and their jobs - you can tell trump in 4 years time if he has done a good or bad job, you may not like his policies but he has been elected fair and square and is doing what he said during his election campaign. The status quo is no longer an option it needs someone bold at the helm of the most powerful country in the world.

I agree with MOST of what you've written in the second paragraph but the first paragraph reads like it was written by someone who is either ignorant or in denial of the truth.
With that said, later in the day, if I have the time and/or can be bothered, I might enlighten you.

All the best for now.