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28-11-21, 05:59 PM | #431 | |
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28-11-21, 06:51 PM | #432 | |
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Just to put that in proper perspective------10% of NHS staff are medical means 10% are doctors. The term "medical" means doctor and does not include "clinical" staff ie nurses physios ambulance radiographers pharmacists etc etc etc. Beware of "statistics" on the net eh? 81% of all statistics are just made up
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28-11-21, 10:03 PM | #433 | |
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28-11-21, 10:26 PM | #434 | |
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The contrasting thought about the deadly viruses was have they mutated to any great extent (or at least at the pace being seen/expected with covid)? How to gauge 'steady state'? I don't know. The deaths issue is intriguing and sensitive of course. I do not like the fact that so many people are dying of covid, I am simply left wondering how many of those are/were truly preventable now that it's out there. What's acceptable is of course a partly medical, partly moral, partly political issue as you rightly point out. I wonder if the covid episode has exposed many more people to the macro-level reality of how many people actually die on a daily basis and much of the debate is because lots of people may be struggling to comprehend it and compare with our micro-level existences. (I include myself in that - again I profess no particular expertise or righteousness.) The mask thing is another contentious point. It could be argued that cases staying stubbornly high is evidence that masks do not really work (en-masse). It may feel like its a minor imposition but I feel we lose a lot socially by covering our faces. Again, I do not know what to conclude (though, as it happens, I have been trained in a some mask wearing activities over the years in my professional life so I like to think I decently appreciate the practical issues related to them.) I agree that the 'half-baked' guidance/solution we have now, full of inconsistencies or anomalies, is making things harder to deal with for most. I am certainly just sick of it and probably mentally exhausted to the point of subconsciously thinking "to hell with it, it will be what it will be".
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29-11-21, 12:15 AM | #435 | |
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ps I now see that Biker Biggles has already made this point. Last edited by svenrico; 29-11-21 at 12:20 AM. |
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29-11-21, 12:45 PM | #437 | |
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In any case , it isn't just old people we are trying to protect, it is people like yourself if you are in a vulnerable category. Best wishes anyway, let's take precautions where we can. |
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29-11-21, 02:41 PM | #438 | ||
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Whilst the imposed requirements nowadays are obviously not off-the-scale ridiculous, we have to accept that they follow c.18months that included draconian lockdown that prevented people seeing family and friends or doing any non-subsistence activities. That was definitely a parking bay existence! There also remains a continuing ribbon of fear being propogated that is further affecting the way society functions in general. I may be "vulnerable" (but probably not in covid terms, against official categorisations, to my knowledge) but I do not want anyone to protect me - I am content to make my own choices about risks and take the consequences. (FWIW, I have immediate family far more vulnerable than me and they feel much the same way.) Prevention/Restriction/Limitation is culturally difficult in our way of life so we shouldn't be surprised that people push back. Unfortunately, restoring the joy of life we had pre-covid is far more complex than just allowing the activities to return with a mask and warnings about social distancing. I've taken reasonable precautions to guard myself (having the jabs etc.), and no question that if I suspect symptoms in me I will act to prevent pass-on as far as I can by isolating etc. However, I find the implicit demand that we should all behave in everything we do like everyone (including ourselves) is a killer, 'just in case', to be ever-present and insidious. And it's just demoralising for me.
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29-11-21, 03:21 PM | #439 |
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It's not great for the rest of us, but I think there's a lot more apathy about Covid now. I travelled on the underground yesterday for the first time in ages. Masks are required, but only 50% of people we wearing them and TfL staff clearly didnt' give a s**t either.
The new Omicron variant is still an unknown quantity. As usual, we won't know if it is genuinely important until it's too late to do anything about it. It might be another Delta which will race through the population, or a Beta which never really got going despite some worthwhile mutations. The government isn't much better off at telling what's going to happen with Omicron than we are. So we'll just have to put up with their best guess and either: a) Wear masks for a bit b) Endure lockdown for a bit c) Sit in a dark corner with buckets over our heads for two weeks Option c) would probably stop Covid dead in its tracks, and two weeks of starvation would reduce the obesity problem significantly too. But it would result in a nation wide bucket shortage and none of the Tory party donors has a monopoly on buckets (yet). Just my random ramblings, Keith. |
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I have written war and peace on this about 3 times and deleted it, too much of a rant.
3 Simple Things everyone can do. Get all your Vaccinations done - Much less chance of getting Ill when you catch it, not designed to stop you catching covid but to help you survive the virus. Wear a mask - simple, probably won't stop you getting it but really helps to stop you passing it on if you get it especially if it's between tests. Don't be manky, keep your hands cleaned. Yes it's a demoralising experience we have had for the past 18 odd months but truth be told, it's better than 300k+dead a trashed (worse than it is) NHS and Excel being used as a Morgue rather than an un-needed standby hospital. Me? - Well i'm still hiding away as much as I can, have the bike for some fun (well when it's not icy anyway) and a PC for the rest of the time, much happier to lose a couple of year than end up dead. |
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