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View Poll Results: Margaret Thatcher..... | |||
Outstayed her welcome by 2 terms | 4 | 11.43% | |
Dragged the country up from off its árse | 22 | 62.86% | |
Megalomaniac, self obsessed tyrant | 5 | 14.29% | |
Don't care | 4 | 11.43% | |
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06-04-05, 02:37 PM | #41 |
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I am surprised at the results of the poll.
being an old git, I remember britain before thatcher, under both tory and labour administrations. Both were abysmal - I especially remember the 3 day week in the 1970s and scraping a living - it was difficult to buy decent transport, let alone a house. Thatcher changed all that. She was also absolutely honest about what she wanted to do - and i do like that in a politician I'm no fan of Tony Blair and never have been. I'm no fan of Howard or Kennedy either - so I'll just vote for my local MP, who works hard for his community. Not voting is not an option. |
06-04-05, 06:39 PM | #42 | ||
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I am ashamed to say I have and average (from a variety of test scores) IQ of 172. Apparently that means I'm a bona fide genius... personally I think it means IQ tests a joke. I do like the idea of tying your status as an employed member of British society into your right to vote if you wish. I would strong defy, protest and actively kick up a stink about being made to vote unless there was an option on the ballot paper for abstension. Various people, to whom I am grateful, fought long and hard for me as a woman. Not to have the right to vote, but to have the right to be able to vote. My choice. |
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06-04-05, 06:45 PM | #43 | |||
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With a German victory at the Battle of Britain it would have taken Hitler out of the similar situation that Napoleon was in. Taking on the vastness of Russia and the logistical problem's that entails, whilst still securing a second front of sorts at home. Though with Napoleon it was more of a domestic issue than expansion both east and west. |
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06-04-05, 07:57 PM | #44 |
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I remember the 1970s before Thatcher and those awful nationalised industries like British Leyland,Rail,Steel,Shipbuilders,Coal,Gas,Electric and many others.Those were the bad old days when people (especially in the North East Andrew)had real jobs in those industries.Thatcher presided over the wholesale destruction of most of that industrial base or the flogging of it on the cheap often to foreign interests.Its still going on(MG Rover)and our industry is now so emasculated that the French build ships for Cunard and are quite likely to have to build the Navys aircraft carriers.I think she should have been tried for Crimes against British Industry.
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06-04-05, 09:40 PM | #45 | |
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I now work in a very large engineering firm that again you have referenced above. In 1984 when I started there we had overflowing order books and a "cash mountain" In the last 8 years our market has disappeared and the 5000+ that used to work in our Manchester plant are no more. Our businesses in Preston, Birmingham have all but disappeared. Not from Mrs T legacy, but from a total lack of UK orders, and an unwillingness of the current UK goverment to assist their industries. The French do. and as such then demand that when the company wins large value international orders that they are executed in France.
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07-04-05, 08:05 AM | #46 | |
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Personally I would favour all elected representatives salaries being linked to voter turnout. Perhaps not the entire solution, but a step in the right direction of encouraging engagement with the electorate. |
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07-04-05, 08:18 AM | #47 |
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Engaging the populace in the political process is what got us stuck with these slimey contemptable 'leaders' in the first place.
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07-04-05, 07:37 PM | #48 |
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I think me and Timwilky probably agree with each other.I wouldnt defend the lack of support for industry since Thatcher,and I dont claim that all was well before 1979.I do say she was responsible for starting the policies that have got us where we are now.Short term action to balance the books has delivered an economy that looks good but is based on nothing real.The French and Germans have made sure their core industries have remained largely intact and are able to produce real goods and generate wealth.How will we do that when its all gone.At this moment MG Rover is about to go down that same plughole.That would never happen to VW,Renault,Nissan,General Motors or Aprillia,who have all been effectively bankrupt at some stage.Thatcher started the let em rot policies that we still follow.
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