New Riders and Big Bikes?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Speedy Claire

The next part would have made me a fortune if I had managed to get it on tape, 5th gear hitting 60 taps him on the leg and hissed Nitro boost - "Oh Jesus" (I screamed that cos I thought I was coming to meet him and although an atheist I hedge my bets) the front wheel left the deck - he fell backwards and his legs caught me under the arms and lifted my hands off the bars, riding along at 70mph+ front wheel in the air and us engaged in some sort of sordid gay sex ritual on the back. For some reason that day was not to be my last and I managed to get my hands on the bars before the front wheel came back down and regained composure - time to head home I think.

PMSL

Originally Posted by rubberduckofdeath

You're saying the same nonsense as the media. You don't work for the Sun, do you?



He NEVER breaks the speed limits?

LMAO no i dont work for the daily comic, lol,
it just seems as if you are banding anyone new who owns a SS in to there own stereotype.. that they almost dont deserve it because they are new?

Now fair weather riders IMO are different, in a sense that they dont like getting cold or wet, and really love a clean bike. . that in its self is preferance of the rider

a weekend warrior IMO is a cocky rich bloke who bought SS thou or similar to boast to his friends.. talks down to the likes of SV650 riders like me (and us)
and is reckless eager to impress and has S**T for brains on a bike.
i dont know you but it sounds like you have your head screwed on and not a WW, i can without a doubt see your point

as for my mate lol,
trust me lol, i mean never! he could be an examiner im sure of it lol,

Originally Posted by rubberduckofdeath

Personally I think that having a very powerful sports bike as your first bike is f**k witted.

Harsh but fair IMO.

I am a middle-aged newbie. The way I looked at my own desire to own a bike was that I know I have a penchant for speed (in a car), and owning a SS600 would probably be either licence-losing, or fatal. Either through my own stupidity or my lack of experience.

I also didn't have an unlimited budget, and wanted to get the best "starter" bike for the money (cheap to buy, cheap to run - if you remember to put oil in the damn thing - and cheap to insure). I'm also a slightly built fella and so I didn't want anything too heavy. The SV is light. So on all categories it came out top for me Even if I had the money I STILL wouldn't have gone and bought a SS600.

At the end of the day, you only REALLY start to learn to ride once you've passed your test. And my opinion is that you don't LEARN to drive in a Supercar, so why learn to ride on a SS600?

Personally, I'd rather learn to ride safely, comfortably, and learn my lessons on the SV so that WHEN I decide to go down the SS600 (or bigger) route, I feel better prepared to handle such a bike.

However, in the meantime, I'm having far too much fun learning as much as I can on the SV

In reality what makes someone a weekend warrior?

I ride to uni/around for the most part on my bike, but i do most of my more intense riding at the weekend. Unless tonyk is holding one of his infamous mid-week rideouts.
I don't usually wear full leathers unless its the weekend either.

Just because i ride during the week, doesn't automatically make me a better rider than someone to whom motorbikes are just a pastime. As the weather improves there will be an increase of bikers on the roads. The vast majority don't misbehave any more than you or i.

Finally lets explode this myth that a "weekend warrior' has to be rich. For ?10k you can get a new litre sportsbike, with some trick bits, so they're hardly unaffordable. You don't even need the cash these days, as credit is so available.

In summary, sure some weekend riders drive like idiots, but then again i see similar behaviour from all weather riders.

Originally Posted by ASM-Forever

In reality what makes someone a weekend warrior?
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repost
this is my take on it

a weekend warrior IMO is a cocky rich bloke who bought SS thou or similar to boast to his friends.. talks down to the likes of SV650 riders like me (and us)
and is reckless eager to impress and has S**T for brains on a bike.

thats how i seeit any how, which is not someone who rides at the weekend, although the name suggests it lol,

Originally Posted by ASM-Forever

The constant jealousy/underdog syndrome exhibited by some on this site, can become a little tiresome.

I'm not jealous, I just dont get why anyone would want to buy a big bike without the confidence!

I could go out and buy a 1098 tomorrow if I wanted to, but I dont because I'm happy with my SV, which I'll use mostly for commuting.

But I guess at the same time there are some bandit biker training places out there that will merely teach you to be a drone and pass your test - the place I did mine the guy was always going on about throttle control and such like. I wouldnt even consider going around a corner with a dipped clutch.

I was originally looking at the bike thinking, "nice bike mate..." Then I saw him dip the clutch, and go round the roundabout... I grimaced before he lost it, and was thankful he didnt drop it... Like I said - I hope he learned his lesson!

If anyone wants to buy a big bike immediately after passing their test, good on them... but I think its unwise without some road experience first!

Originally Posted by lylej

repost
this is my take on it

a weekend warrior IMO is a cocky rich bloke who bought SS thou or similar to boast to his friends.. talks down to the likes of SV650 riders like me (and us)
and is reckless eager to impress and has S**T for brains on a bike.

thats how i seeit any how, which is not someone who rides at the weekend, although the name suggests it lol,

I was having a similar conversation with a colleague of mine a while back...

We were saying that me and him have both had rather bad accidents which have altered the way we think on the road, and for the better too.

I feel more confident now... and I hate to see it when I see a little angry bee whizz past me, only to be followed by some guys on their bikes who are driving fast to "save face". I saw this happen after the year before lasts BSB at silverstone, when a couple of angry bee's took a blind corner and almost hit a car coming in the opposite direction - immediately followed by 2 or 3 bikes.

Now, I couldnt care less what they do... but if any of them had hit the car, they would have taken me out too... and to me thats selfish and ignorant.

There was a fella at my old base who wanted to learnt ride cos of his friends had big bikes ZX-9R and the like and he wanted to pass his test and get a big bike 600 Supersports+. I told him to get an SV650 like me but he wouldnt have it, guess they arnt cool enough.

He said he could handle a big bike, dont ask me where he got this idea from, I have no idea.

Funny story Claire

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Originally Posted by lylej

but saying he cant ride a bike and has no confidence is a little harsh

Maybe so, but dipping a clutch to go round a roundabout, means he has little or no speed control, loosing the front could have been a consequence of wet slippy road or diesel, but the clutch dip says to me novice rider or no confidence.

Originally Posted by lylej

me and kevin schwantz think that 90% of racing is between your ears.. ( in your head ) lol, its only when you freak out you run into trouble..

Yes that very true, but that goes for all riding if if want to be any good.

I could quite easily go out buy almost anything in the 600/750 range if I really wanted to but have no desire (fact is i have other plans) But I don't want one right now I want to learn my SV first I know for fact my bike has more to give and I have yet to ride it to its full potential so why do I need something faster and more powerful? I want to learn skill first, thats what make you a fast rider not the bike, that goes for anything to do with bikes.

I am very unimpressed by idiots on fast bikes, becasue they don't help us at all and upset the wrong people, which is not what any of us want. The guys at the ace last w/end pulling wheelies down the road outside, why not do it somwhere you can't get caught? I know plenty of places that are quite where that can be out of site. (yes I know why they do it there)