Drug taking Teacher

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by Ed

I have an absolutist view - I don't agree with Soulkiss here. Possession must surely indicate a more accepting approach to drugs. There is a possibility that he would suggest that taking drugs is OK and not as 'bad' as is made out.

Ed, I dont take and wouldn't encourage anyone to take drugs, in fact apart from the AR, and then the LARP Weekend, I haven't even drunk alcohol, which I guess actually classes me as a binge drinker.

However, if I had done something REALLY stupid on one of those occasions the newpapers would not have taken into account that my annual alcohol consumption is probably less than some peoples weekly amount, it would just be about how drunk I was and what I did.

Also as I said I used to think Drug-taker = not trust-worthy, I guess basing my prejudice on the persona's shown in Trainspotting.

Then as I said I made a good friend who, after some time I discovered has probably taken ANY drug that you care to mention, and still will if he feels like it, but is not actually an addict in that its not a daily/weekly thing.

That changed my view on who/what a drug taker is.

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by Ed

There is a possibility that he would suggest that taking drugs is OK and not as 'bad' as is made out.

and as someone with a self confessed absolutist view on the subject and zero experience you're best placed to rule that, in fact, all drugs are as bad as the very worst cherry picked cases brought to the public's attention by the daily mail, are?

before you call me a junkie, i've never taken a controlled substance either, never been tempted in the slightest, but i know people who have and there are plenty who lead successful lives without descending into the downward spiral...

I feel that what this teacher does in his private life is none of his employers business, unless of course it directly impacts on his work and puts the children in his care at risk.

I don't feel that a code of professional conduct should strictly define how an individual behaves in their private life too.

I know of a nurse who was struck off the register for being a lapdancer in her private time. The NMC decided that she was not 'upholding and enhancing the good reputation of the profession'. Never mind that she was an absolutely brilliant nurse.

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by melody

Never mind that she was an absolutely brilliant nurse.

"Good morning Mr Johnson, has yesterday's swelling gone down yet"

[Biker Biggles]

Id just like to say how encouraged and uplifted I feel by the attitudes shown on this thread.I was expecting a bit of a "hang him out to dry" thread to develop,but the org has risen well above that.Must be a biker thing----we know what its like to be a hated minority.

Originally Posted by melody

I know of a nurse who was struck off the register for being a lapdancer in her private time. The NMC decided that she was not 'upholding and enhancing the good reputation of the profession'. Never mind that she was an absolutely brilliant nurse.

That's all very well...but what was she like as a lap-dancer?

[Biker Biggles]

Abi Titmuss was a nurse before going on to bigger things

It does annoy me though that these "professional bodies",which are largely self appointed or in the patronage of anonymous quangos,can destroy peoples careers and put them out of work without any legal redress unless you happen to be very rich and can sue privately.
Its a throwback to feudalism and should be radically overhauled.

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

Abi Titmuss was a nurse before going on to bigger things

It does annoy me though that these "professional bodies",which are largely self appointed or in the patronage of anonymous quangos,can destroy peoples careers and put them out of work without any legal redress unless you happen to be very rich and can sue privately.
Its a throwback to feudalism and should be radically overhauled.

Help, Help, I'm being oppressed

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

Abi Titmuss was a nurse before going on to bigger things

It does annoy me though that these "professional bodies",which are largely self appointed or in the patronage of anonymous quangos,can destroy peoples careers and put them out of work without any legal redress unless you happen to be very rich and can sue privately.
Its a throwback to feudalism and should be radically overhauled.

not true - whilst people can - and do, and are encouraged to - self-nominate, ask the public appointments committee (and us civil servants who have to do the digging) how much effort and time it takes to actually appoint suitable candidates.

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

and as someone with a self confessed absolutist view on the subject and zero experience you're best placed to rule that, in fact, all drugs are as bad as the very worst cherry picked cases brought to the public's attention by the daily mail, are?

before you call me a junkie, i've never taken a controlled substance either, never been tempted in the slightest, but i know people who have and there are plenty who lead successful lives without descending into the downward spiral...

I don't want to turn this into a debate on the evils of drug abuse. As I've said, I fail to see the advantages to anyone of using drugs. Sorry it just doesn't wash with me. And I maintain that anyone who is caught in possession is bound to have a softer message on the subject, else why would they have them in the first place? For someone else's use? oh come on... So if this teacher has accepted a caution (and he would have had to accept it) then how likely is it that the bloke will deliver the message that drug use is bad news? The fact that some might do occasional grass and live non-addict lives is irrelevant, no?

BTW I don't read the Daily Mail