ban smoking in cars ???

FFS, what's next? Ban passengers in case a conversation distracts the driver?

I don't smoke anymore but when I did, I did it while driving. Never had or caused an accident while doing it either.

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Originally Posted by Woz

FFS, what's next? Ban passengers in case a conversation distracts the driver?

Ahhh see now, you joke, however, in Ireland people are banned from having passengers in their car after 6pm for the first 2 years.......and I think its a bloody good idea.

Kids showing off to their mates is a big problem.....only two weeks ago two young lads I'm familiar with died in a car accident because the driver was not concentrating in the dark. (One of them was even a not very active member on here who had a restricted SV for when he passed his test)

Originally Posted by G

Kids showing off to their mates is a big problem.....only two weeks ago two young lads I'm familiar with died in a car accident because the driver was not concentrating in the dark. (One of them was even a not very active member on here who had a restricted SV for when he passed his test)

Just like loads of people who've known someone they once met who got killed in a motorcycle accident?

Constantly amazes me that a group of people who should understand how important liberty is are just as happy as anyone else to give it up.

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Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

Just like loads of people who've known someone they once met who got killed in a motorcycle accident?

Constantly amazes me that a group of people who should understand how important liberty is are just as happy as anyone else to give it up.

Ah but you forget motorcycles are already heavily restricted, with age, licences, bhp etc.

A 17 year old can get straight into a ferrari once the have passed their test with no restrictions at all as long as they can afford it....that to me is a problem.

Originally Posted by G

Ah but you forget motorcycles are already heavily restricted, with age, licences, bhp etc.

A 17 year old can get straight into a ferrari once the have passed their test with no restrictions at all as long as they can afford it....that to me is a problem.

I'll bet the lad who killed himself wasnt driving anything like that though, so I don't think that point is valid.

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Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

I'll bet the lad who killed himself wasnt driving anything like that though, so I don't think that point is valid.

The lad who 'killed himself' wasnt driving, he was just ONE of the passengers that died........the driver was the only survivor.

Look at the difference in figures (%) from ireland to UK and try and argue that the scheme doesnt work.....population is taken into account in the percentages.

Mr Squirrel know you are completely against legislation and banning anything.....and the majority of the time I would agree, there is ALOT of crap decision making and **** legislation out there, but some of it is worthwhile and makes a difference.

As for the smoking one I couldnt careless like I said in a previous post, as ever there is arguements for and against.

Originally Posted by G

The lad who 'killed himself' wasnt driving, he was just ONE of the passengers that died........the driver was the only survivor.

Look at the difference in figures (%) from ireland to UK and try and argue that the scheme doesnt work.....population is taken into account in the percentages.

Mr Squirrel know you are completely against legislation and banning anything.....and the majority of the time I would agree, there is ALOT of crap decision making and **** legislation out there, but some of it is worthwhile and makes a difference.

As for the smoking one I couldnt careless like I said in a previous post, as ever there is arguements for and against.

That a % of younger drivers who get themselves killed you refering to there?

Re legislation - it's a shame isn't it. Personally I feel that any drive for further legislation with respect to 'safety' needs to be fought, simply because the government always takes it too far. Although with 3000 odd new laws (was it every day/week/year? can't remeber, either way it's unnecesary) it would appear futile. Seems noone cares.

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Theres a saying.....

'Every new bit of legislation or law is written in blood'

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They should just ban driving, it'd be alot simpler. Along with anything else that somebody who doesnt really know what they are blithering about deems dangerous. Then we can all live in a nice, clean, safe sanitised environment. Until we all go out of our tiny little minds.

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

They should just ban driving, it'd be alot simpler. Along with anything else that somebody who doesnt really know what they are blithering about deems dangerous. Then we can all live in a nice, clean, safe sanitised environment. Until we all go out of our tiny little minds.

If we continue to legislate the way we are and that happens, people will suddenly realise the liberty they've given up. I can't imagine any government would be too quick to hand it back either. Might take 20 years, might take 200, but I can see some serious trouble in the future.