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Old 26-06-09, 09:29 AM   #41
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Congrats on passing Dude. And good luck for the next section
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Old 26-06-09, 10:59 AM   #42
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I completed my module one test today. You all know how it works: slow control, figure of 8, swerve, controlled stop, U-turn, manual handling etc.
It lasts around 10 minutes and you're allowed 5 minors which you can get for forgetting observations (imagining you're on a public highway) and for positioning in the cones.

The diagram for the swerve test looks a lot more harsh than it really is. When you do it, its not much different from avoiding a pot hole.

There have been a few stories about people breaking their arms on the test, but i can honestly say these people must have not been trained properly. My instructor aggrees, and apararntly some schools just show the dvd and throw them in at the deep end.

Once again MCN is wrong. Anyone who is worried about sitting this test really shouldnt be, and it was a lot easier than i thought it would be.

My module two is booked for the 8th of july, and it will hopefully go as well as module one!
Caught this thread a bit late. But would you like to tell that to the candidates who broke bones while doing the Moduel 1 part?
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Old 26-06-09, 11:01 AM   #43
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Spend the money you would otherwise spend on resitting tests on an hour with a hypnotherapist that deals with nerves. There are loads out there...cost about the same as your test and it will really help you. My friend had to do it after failing her driving test four times. She had an hours hypnotherapy and a week later she did her fifth test and passed!

I'm lucky that I just don't suffer nerves like that so tests and exams are just like any other day for me, but if you do suffer nerves, I think you should use every tool you can find to help you overcome them!
Ummm, in 2 minds about this. Problem with this approach is what happens if you get anxious while riding?

For example, many,many moons ago when learning in the car, driving on main road and a car pulled straight out in front from a side turning without slowing. Had to emergency stop, nearly pushed brake pedal through floor of car, missing other car by inches. Shaken, as was intructor(!), but OK. Now if I was a nervous type, would I have frozen and not done emergency stop? Or would I have not been fit to continue driving afterwards?

Can't really answer the questions, but, if you can't pass the test because of nerves, are your nerves good enough to be able to drive on the road? People will cut you up, slam brakes on in front, pull out without looking.

Nerves lessen with practice, so if its just being watched makes you nervous, bug a friend to mark you doing manoevers round the local supermarket car park.
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Old 26-06-09, 11:12 AM   #44
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Ummm, in 2 minds about this. Problem with this approach is what happens if you get anxious while riding?

For example, many,many moons ago when learning in the car, driving on main road and a car pulled straight out in front from a side turning without slowing. Had to emergency stop, nearly pushed brake pedal through floor of car, missing other car by inches. Shaken, as was intructor(!), but OK. Now if I was a nervous type, would I have frozen and not done emergency stop? Or would I have not been fit to continue driving afterwards?

Can't really answer the questions, but, if you can't pass the test because of nerves, are your nerves good enough to be able to drive on the road? People will cut you up, slam brakes on in front, pull out without looking.

Nerves lessen with practice, so if its just being watched makes you nervous, bug a friend to mark you doing manoevers round the local supermarket car park.
Like I said, I don't suffer nerves so can only comment on what I've been told my my friends that do. My friend that had hypnotherapy suffered extreme nerves under exam conditions. She flunked all her GCSE's and had to re sit because of nerves, but was one of the brightest pupils and never got nervous in class. She did fine through all her driving lessons, encountered a near miss once (not as bad as yours) and was fine because she was just driving with her instructor and was not nervous. The nerves would only kick in when she was being tested. It's a fear of failure thing, a pressure/stress thing surrounding the fact that you are being marked/tested/judged that causes the nerves to get so bad in some people.

For that, hypnotherapy can help a great deal because it can teach you the tools that you can use to overcome the nerves. As simple as my friend having to press her left thumb into the steering wheel if she felt nerves starting and it would help her relax again. The proof is in the pudding and after hypnotherapy, she passed her test.

If people suffer nerves as an ongoing/permanent problem, then an instructor would probably not put them forward for their test as those nerves could impede safety on the roads.

All just my opinion of course and the experience of a friend, not me.....so not a medical perspective at all.
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Old 26-06-09, 11:14 AM   #45
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Caught this thread a bit late. But would you like to tell that to the candidates who broke bones while doing the Moduel 1 part?
One thing I never noticed reported was the amount of time/miles they had put in before the test - had they even been out in the rain before?

I still disagree that the test does not take the weather into condition, and feel that the minimum speed should be reduced to simulate the fact you would probably be riding slower in those conditions on the road, but the validity of the maneouver itself is probably doesn't need defending.
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Old 26-06-09, 11:18 AM   #46
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Apologies, "you" was intended as a generic you (for all readers), not a specific you.
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Old 26-06-09, 11:30 AM   #47
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Apologies, "you" was intended as a generic you (for all readers), not a specific you.

Apology not needed mate....I never thought for a second you were referring to me.....if indeed you are now. I might not suffer nerves, but I do get confused sometimes....lol
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Old 26-06-09, 11:34 AM   #48
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Nerves were a huge problem for me during the test. I was very tense and the examiner told me to relax about three times. It sounds silly but my confidence in failing was really knocked after failing the theory test twice in a row.

At one point during the 17m walking speed advance my right fot and leg was shaking so much. I couldnt control it! I thought i was going to knock on the brake too hard and come off
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Nerves were a huge problem for me during the test. I was very tense and the examiner told me to relax about three times. It sounds silly but my confidence in failing was really knocked after failing the theory test twice in a row.

At one point during the 17m walking speed advance my right fot and leg was shaking so much. I couldnt control it! I thought i was going to knock on the brake too hard and come off
I feel so lucky when I hear things like this. I clearly remember being 14, my cousin and best friend died very suddenly and all the small things in life just got instantly put into perspective. It can be a bt annoying to some....Stretch and I had problems with my bank freezing all the time because of the ID theft and fraud and he was getting really stressed about it. I wa too....but never in the same way. I'd always say not to worry, it'll sort itself out and we'll be laughing about it before long, which I'm sure really infuriated him!

Since that time as a young girl, I've just not really been bothered about anything that isn't life changing to me or those around me. A test can be done again, an exam can be re sat, you can always get another job in time and material things can always be replaced. It just means I can always go into things with a clear mind and relaxed body....which helps. Didn't even get a minor when I took my driving test and the examiner said it was the first clean sheet he'd had in 20 odd years!
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Old 26-06-09, 11:58 AM   #50
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Im only nervous at test because its something that i want soooo badly but i cant seem to fool my brain into thinking that i dont want it!

Whilst I do understand AndyW's comment about having those nerves on the road i really am not nervous about road riding at all and my trainer says its a joy to ride with me cos he doesnt have to worry about me, its like riding with a sensible mate. Ive driven a car daily for 20 years and not been involved in one incident but i know that if i had to re-take my test i'd revert to the competence level of a 5 year old, it really is just the pressure of the test scenario and no reflection of on-road competence or confidence.
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