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also why if they have time machine's don't they go back and properly kill miles dyson the guy who started it all and stop the cybernet thing the whole terminator plot makes no sense haha.
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I think it's best to assume that if time travel is possible, then nothing makes any difference. Like the past, the reality of the future is set in stone if someone can travel back from it. Just as you cannot time travel to visit your teenage self, introduce yourself and make yourself rich, unless you remember it happening and are currently rich as a result. Then, whether you like it or not, you will make that journey through time yourself in later years. Similarly, if it's your intention to visit yourself and throw yourself a surprise 12th birthday party and give yourself a "sports almanac", nothing you can do will make it happen. Kind of puts a downer on the whole Terminator series though. |
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In the Terminator example, if success leads to another "fork", then failure is the way it always happened and always will have happened on the existing "fork" - the "fork" which prompted you to go to such lengths in the first place. There will always be a John Connor that grows up to be a resistance leader fighting the machines. Another interesting question is at what point does a "change" occur? When you kill Miles Dyson? When you decide to? When you send a Terminator back in time? When it arrives? When as a kid you realise your destiny is to send a Terminator back in time? When you were conceived? etc etc If in your future you're going to do something in "the past" then it's already done, even if it's in your future. If the past is always there to be travelled to, so too must the future exist, because someone can travel from it. I remember reading about Titor a few years ago. I'm as convinced he's a fraud now as I was then. Many worlds is convenient, because it means no proof need be presented, ever. "Well there was a civil war in my universe, I must have changed something". Oh right. Edit: Yeah he's annoying no? There's a really cheesily read little speech about us having no future but what we make for ourselves too iirc. I forget the actual line. Probably the Miles Dyson bit is his worst though ![]() Last edited by sinbad; 07-01-10 at 08:07 PM. |
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Skynet only exists because it sent the things needed for itself to be built back in time. So does that mean it's an anomaly, or that it's inevitable it'll be built? Because how did it come into existence the first time, in order to send the things needed for itself to be built the first time? Basically, arm + processor = Skynet = arm + processor = Skynet, looping forever. Likewise, the Resistance must know that they have to send Terminators back to protect the Connors because they know how history went and have to ensure it happens the way they've been told it did. Hurts my head thinking about it.
I remember watching T2 with several younger friends. They didn't flinch when the T-1000 cuts that cop open at the beginning, but they all said 'ewww' when he then crouches down to pick up his gun because 'you saw his butt!!!' ![]() |
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I suppose, you could think that Skynet is from an alternate timeline and can't control where its stuff gets sent back in time to... so our timeline would never have had Skynet but another one did... and their Terminator arrived in our timeline hence Skynet was able to be developed.
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