Recommend Me: Block Paving Workers

Originally Posted by Owenski

Whats the minimum loading you'd want from the wacker?

crikey, that technical...

"can I have a wacker for type 1 please"

yes ... here you go,

on a more serious note, the hire company should be able to advise you a ok..

I see what your getting at but if im doing it myself I'll be buying all the gear, not hiring and I'll be selling off once Im done. Comes with the bonus of loosing less money and been able to take my sweet time over it.

Cost of hiring wacker, £70 for the week
Cost of buying wacker £150 (for as long as it takes) - £150 approx re-sale value = £0

It does however leave me cautious about the temptation in to buying the tools based on thier price, rather than their suitabilty - hence the previous question.

I'd be quite happy to build a drive out of 7N blocks so Im thinking nothing more than a 5N wacker would be needed and in which case this might be suitable. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WHACKER-EVOLUT...item5643aa8d9e

or if thats not daddy enough then this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WHACKER-EVOLUT...item5643aa8ee6

they're both new items which gives piece of mind but im not against 2nd hand by any means.
my stihl saw and cement mixer are both 2nd handers, they'll also be getting sold once the gardens all done - with them I've already saved a fortune against hire costs.

Originally Posted by Owenski

I see what your getting at but if im doing it myself I'll be buying all the gear, not hiring and I'll be selling off once Im done. Comes with the bonus of loosing less money and been able to take my sweet time over it.

Cost of hiring wacker, £70 for the week
Cost of buying wacker £150 (for as long as it takes) - £150 approx re-sale value = £0

It does however leave me cautious about the temptation in to buying the tools based on thier price, rather than their suitabilty - hence the previous question.

I'd be quite happy to build a drive out of 7N blocks so Im thinking nothing more than a 5N wacker would be needed and in which case this might be suitable. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WHACKER-EVOLUT...item5643aa8d9e

or if thats not daddy enough then this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WHACKER-EVOLUT...item5643aa8ee6

they're both new items which gives piece of mind but im not against 2nd hand by any means.
my stihl saw and cement mixer are both 2nd handers, they'll also be getting sold once the gardens all done - with them I've already saved a fortune against hire costs.

im with you now,

second one is the one you want if you are going to buy, IMHO,

give me a shout when your selling off your gear as Ill probably have the lot off you. lol.

[tinpants]

It really doesn't matter how big a wacker you go for, the maximum compaction is reached after approx 3 passes and is generally considered to be about 1 -2 inches in a 3 -4 inch layer of type 1 GSB. Most wackers won't compact much more than that. Some will, but you'd need a crane to lift them in!!

[tinpants]

Originally Posted by Owenski

I see what your getting at but if im doing it myself I'll be buying all the gear, not hiring and I'll be selling off once Im done. Comes with the bonus of loosing less money and been able to take my sweet time over it.

Cost of hiring wacker, £70 for the week
Cost of buying wacker £150 (for as long as it takes) - £150 approx re-sale value = £0

It does however leave me cautious about the temptation in to buying the tools based on thier price, rather than their suitabilty - hence the previous question.

I'd be quite happy to build a drive out of 7N blocks so Im thinking nothing more than a 5N wacker would be needed and in which case this might be suitable. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WHACKER-EVOLUT...item5643aa8d9e

or if thats not daddy enough then this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WHACKER-EVOLUT...item5643aa8ee6

they're both new items which gives piece of mind but im not against 2nd hand by any means.
my stihl saw and cement mixer are both 2nd handers, they'll also be getting sold once the gardens all done - with them I've already saved a fortune against hire costs.

You'll be wasting your time with the leccy one. You may as well jump up and down on it yourself. The petrol one, although better than the electric, still isn't really very good but may do an adequate job. My Belle PCX 400 cost me over a grand. You get what you pay for. Just saying.

This is what I wanna hear,
The sthil and the mixer are nothing more than what they are I cant go wrong there, but the wacker from what I gather would be the critical tool for this job - hence why although I want to buy, I dont want to buy something if its going to have a negative result.
If I have to hire, then I'll hire - In theory Ive already made a tidy saving on the other stuff (plus by doing it myself) a saving is a saving so no need to get greedy financially at the cost of a better result.

So as a pro you'd reccomend that I hire a wacker? {or payout a grand lol}

Originally Posted by Owenski

This is what I wanna hear,
The sthil and the mixer are nothing more than what they are I cant go wrong there, but the wacker from what I gather would be the critical tool for this job - hence why although I want to buy, I dont want to buy something if its going to have a negative result.
If I have to hire, then I'll hire - In theory Ive already made a tidy saving on the other stuff (plus by doing it myself) a saving is a saving so no need to get greedy financially at the cost of a better result.

So as a pro you'd reccomend that I hire a wacker? {or payout a grand lol}

I dont think thats exactly what he is getting at,

like all tools you get what you pay for, the £250 wacker would probably do the right job, but not for as long,

Hence there are DIY tools and professional tools,

DIY do the job, maybe just a bit slower and dont last as long as pro tools.

http://www.hss.com/index.php?g=47428#SpecificationTitle

47436 seems to be the daddy of thier fleet - that cracks out 16kn
The ebay link was only 10 - do you recon I'd be able to do the MOT in a day, the sand in a day - 2 days to lay blocks then 5th day sand and sweep the blocks?

If that seems reasonable then, I could do a day hire before doing the haunching for the edges and send it back while I do all my concreting.
Then hire one again for a week to carry out the surface construction.

[Luckypants]

Owenski, if you really want to buy get one like the petrol one for the sand / blocks. Hire a big dock-off diesel wacker for the hardcore though, definitely compacts to refusal with one of them bad boys. The big diesel wacker would be too much for the blocks though.

Originally Posted by Owenski

http://www.hss.com/index.php?g=47428#SpecificationTitle

47436 seems to be the daddy of thier fleet - that cracks out 16kn
The ebay link was only 10 - do you recon I'd be able to do the MOT in a day, the sand in a day - 2 days to lay blocks then 5th day sand and sweep the blocks?

If that seems reasonable then, I could do a day hire before doing the haunching for the edges and send it back while I do all my concreting.
Then hire one again for a week to carry out the surface construction.

Mate

I think your over complicating it a little, of course you want to get it right don't get me wrong.

if you layer the hard core it will compact with a normal average hire compactor, you will know when it stop as A) you cant get anymore down and B) it will no longer be spongy under foot.

Take your time, and lets be honest, if you have to hire it for a weekend, then another weekend thats £140 max in a 3k project.