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Old 22-11-12, 09:34 AM   #41
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Old 22-11-12, 09:34 AM   #42
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Lads like him are probably the exception though aren't they?

Just speaking from experience - spent a lot of time in court as a reporter and you'd see the same people up for driving while disqualified over and over again. Chaps like this -

http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/5165-da...r-escapes-jail
The issue here is like you said, someone gets caught with no licence so they get a ban and fined. Because they have a ban they have to do an extended driving test and their insurance will be cripling, as such they generally decide not to bother with either and drive anyway, thusly getting cause, repeat and rinse...
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Old 22-11-12, 09:49 AM   #43
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I think the problem is insurance and extended driving tests. Not a solution.

I think once you get caught for a crime you should be punished for it and that should be that, over and done with. Not punished and punished 10 times over for the next 5 years.
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Old 22-11-12, 10:02 AM   #44
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If a court bans you from driving,and you go on and drive anyway,that should be contempt of court which carries a very heavy prison sentence.But we dont seem to see these scrotes getting that do we?
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Old 22-11-12, 10:03 AM   #45
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Is it true that some American states have the 3 stricks and you're out rule.So if strike number three is shop lifting a bag of bubble gum its still curtains
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Old 22-11-12, 10:16 AM   #46
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There needs to be more judges with powers to say "well you've had chance to reform, you haven't done, so the best we can do is to keep your worthless hide away from the general public for a while, see you in 10 years"
What, to a 12 year old?
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What, to a 12 year old?
Probably said that in the wrong context, I was meaning more for incurable repeat offenders.
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I figured, but I couldn't resist
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Old 22-11-12, 11:39 AM   #49
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If a court bans you from driving,and you go on and drive anyway,that should be contempt of court which carries a very heavy prison sentence.But we dont seem to see these scrotes getting that do we?
We don't have enough prisons to implement it.

http://www.howardleague.org/overcrowding/

If we had enough prisons, maybe a geometric fixed sentence would work. Eight days for your second offense, sixteen for the next, then 32, 64, 128...

I picked the eight day starter in the hope that even deducting days on remand they would get a meaningful sentence. Repeat offenders would quickly climb the ladder to eight months inside, which might give them pause to think.

And with a fixed tarrif you don't get whiny social workers saying, "Y'r honor he comes from a disturbed background and his disabled Grandma needs him at home". Tough, no discretion, no let-off.

Radical enough for everyone??

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We could also reduce the prison population by not putting people in there who are no threat to the rest of us.
Like the bloke who walks around naked everywhere,who might be odd,but will not wipe out a bus queue in a stolen Corsa any day soon.
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