Dressing up

[garynortheast]

Just watched that earlier this morning. Excellent video.

[Bibio]

Originally Posted by Seeker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y18CrgFdh4

they need to get a life. "Who exactly does the Metropolitan Police work for ma’am? Our citizens, or Boris Johnson?" neither you muppets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Police

some people will just keep spouting sh!t as long as the public listen to them....

[Seeker]

The bottom line is that the police are not investigating using feeble excuses, when clearly they should be investigating. Allowing governments to get away with breaking their own rules is the path to fascism.

This government is already limiting the right to protest and Raab doesn't like the Human Rights act and has plans to weaken it.

They are trying to reduce the oversight of watchdogs and want ministers to be able to overrule judicial reviews.
This particular government is not to be trusted. They are good with slogans and even better with sleaze.

[Bibio]

we do not stay in or are heading towards a fascist state in the UK... stop listening to morons on youtube and reading them on news papers/feeds. they are poisoning your mind for their gain and agenda.

so what if they had an xmas party, they wont be the first and they wont be the last politicians etc.etc to flaunt the rules/laws.. what about the morons that had gyms open or lock ins in pubs etc.etc...

lets face it we have all flaunted the law at some point in our lives.. should we all be condemned and dragged through the mud because we made a mistake.........

the UK is not perfect but i would rather stay here and have bozo and his crew (including the opposition) than stay in somewhere like Russia or USof*******s.

right now the UK is the best place to stay in the whole world and will continue to be so for a long time to come. yes the UK has its faults but not half as bad as most places.

for those that dont like it here in the UK then go stay somewhere else and see just how great it is there...

[Seeker]

Originally Posted by Bibio

so what if they had an xmas party, they wont be the first and they wont be the last politicians etc.etc to flaunt the rules/laws.. what about the morons that had gyms open or lock ins in pubs.

You miss the point. If a member of the public flaunts the rules and are caught they get punished but these are not just members of the public they are the people that set the rules. If they cannot follow their own rules they should be held to account.

I would suggest that our country is drifting inexorably to the right.

1) we have constant reminders about patriotism. global Britain. All cabinet ministers now have to have a flag in the background when interviewed
2) Checks on ministers behaviour are being reduced (including electoral commission)
3) Ministers are trying to control the courts.
4) The media is constantly accused of bias.
5) protests are being restricted.
6) restrictions on voting - picture ids will be needed despite no evidence of voter fraud (the reason given).
7) Redistricting - constituencies are being redrawn which looks like a power grab by Tories.

This isn't a case of saying the UK is bad, elsewhere is good, this is saying this government is taking us to a place we haven't been before and it looks worryingly less democratic.

[Bibio]

all of your above points have been going on in parliament since.. well forever. its just that the things they get up to are more exposed by media, or not depending on the flavour of the day.

things move forward and if the minority of the public cant control themselves then the Gov has to step in and control them for the sake of the many.

if you want to moan about your PM moan to the Queen.

since 1945 it has been a primarily dominant Conservative Government with Labour holding up the rear and the odd coalition. Labour gets in and spends, the Conservative get in and tighten the belts then Labour gets in again and spends it all and the wheels on the buss go round and round till where we are at today.

the UK public only have themselves to blame by being brainwashed to vote mainly for the big two with slogans such as "its a wasted vote to vote for XX". anybody that has even a hint of taking the crown from the big two is bombarded with stories and slander. the power of media controls the minds of the many.....

[Seeker]

Originally Posted by Bibio

all of your above points have been going on in parliament since.. well forever.

err, no they have not.

The flag waving is new. Union Jack to be flown daily on government buildings introduced in Mar2021 - recommended for council buildings too. At same time BoZo told ministers to have flag in background when interviewed.

Watchdogs have been in place and uncontested until now when BoZo has tried to get powers to decide if they can investigate. After the ethics advisor quit (because BoZo would not follow his advice) we didn't have one for 6 months.

Courts have always been independent until now

The open hostility to the BBC is palpable. Nadine Dorries wants it and Ch 4 controlled

Priti Patel is introducing restrictions on the right to protest

We have never had picture id requirement for voting. At the 2019 election there were 6 reported voter fraud cases investigated (out of 30+ million) but only 1 prosecution. It will stop people voting, especially poorer people.

The redistricting will yield more MPs for the south, fewer for the north and deprived areas.

All of this is searchable.

This government is also restricting the use of the Freedom of Information act (illegally) by delaying or ignoring requests.

As long as the (none Tory mouthpiece) media keeps shining a spotlight the lies, corruption and law breaking we stand a chance of keeping the government honest. This is why the youtube video is important to keep the message alive.
The big problem here is apathy or saying: "they all do it". No, they don't.

[redtrummy]

The present Government appears to consider itself unaccountable, and considering the ridiculous throw away expense painting planes, making 'blue rooms' and conveniently giving contacts to those that fill the party coffers I am not sure which is the party of spend

[Biker Biggles]

It may be true that "they all do it" but some do it a lot more than others. Im over 60 and I can honestly say that I have never seen a more corrupt government than the one we have now. I have never seen a PM who lies as openly and regularly as Johnson or who tolerates open wrongdoing and corruption among his ministers and advisers. Even his own supporters know it and some of them are willing to vote to stop him judging by todays shropshire election results. Sadly the damage he does will be with us for a long time whatever happens now.

[Seeker]

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

It may be true that "they all do it" but some do it a lot more than others.

Maybe there are words missing? "all Boris' cabinet ministers do it"

ahem...

I think we need to change the "party" narrative question. Did any government minister or MP NOT have a party during lockdown based on today's revelation?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...anced-25718548