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Old 19-08-04, 08:02 AM   #41
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mistake to say the wheel locks???? The wheel does lock, as in stops spinning......
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Old 19-08-04, 09:41 AM   #42
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When I have seen it happen, the wheel has locked....maybe a different thing, but the original post was complaining of it locking up. gp bikes and stuff and latest sports bikes use slipper clutches for this very reason, so the rear doesn't lock up on strong braking and downshifting.
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Old 19-08-04, 10:21 AM   #43
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Just thought i'd throw in my 2 cents on blipping, it's exactly like heal toeing in cages, not really needed for everyday riding but essential if you want to go really fast. Like on a bike, if you fail to heal toe on a downshift with a meaty engine you can fully lock the rear wheels and spin yourself out.

I used to healtoe in everyday driving until my foot slipped off the brake (as you have to have your foot between the brake and gas) and i nearly rear ended someone. Now i just do it if i'm out for a country drive
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Old 19-08-04, 10:28 AM   #44
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The pedal arrangement on most cars makes heal & toeing very difficult if nigh impossible I find - operating three pedals at the same time ain't easy with just two feet but immensely satisfying when it works


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Old 19-08-04, 10:30 AM   #45
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I had a rally prepared sierra I could do it with, as it had a set of rally/racing pedals.
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Old 19-08-04, 10:50 AM   #46
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I don't blip... But then again I have a considerable amount of weight over the rear wheel

Seriously, I just let the clutch out slowly & my bike behaves itself
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Old 19-08-04, 12:55 PM   #47
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I don't blip... But then again I have a considerable amount of weight over the rear wheel

Seriously, I just let the clutch out slowly & my bike behaves itself
Same. I cant get the hang of blipping the throttle while gripping the brake
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Old 19-08-04, 01:35 PM   #48
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When I have seen it happen, the wheel has locked....maybe a different thing, but the original post was complaining of it locking up. gp bikes and stuff and latest sports bikes use slipper clutches for this very reason, so the rear doesn't lock up on strong braking and downshifting.
Well, engine braking absolutely will not lock the rear while the engine's turning, and unless the clutch is in, you can't lock the rear for any length of time without stalling- I'm talking moments, not even seconds. It's possible to get an extremely slow spin- I've gone from 30mph to idle speed in first, and that's pretty close to locking, but it's as close as engine braking will ever get you to locking.
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Old 19-08-04, 02:15 PM   #49
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its getting abit too technical now....I did say braking and downshifting..in that bit...probably said engine braking caused it earlier tho...
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Old 16-10-04, 08:35 PM   #50
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Try a California Suberbike day.

Part of the exercises you had to do before being allowed out on track was blipping whilst braking and rolling your fingers over the throttle and braking with 1 or 2 fingers.
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