Friendly Fire from american planes that killed british troop

I need to review the video when I get home but it looks like he targets a single vehicle instead of strafing the entire column hence the reduce casualties.
Also didn't seem to be following the gun line but again I need to look when I get home and maybe even get on some fighter forums and get (forum) expert opinion.

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

I actually think this highlights something else that stuck me at first ... several mins flying about and 2 strike runs '000s of rounds of ammo and only 1 dead ... if that was actually the enemy they were 'taking out' then they would have done a pretty lousy job and expended all that resource!!

It was strange that they used the gun...if they dropped bombs or guided missiles then the death and injury toll would have been higher...

OK so POPOV 36 can't even tell his right from his left and keeps getting East/West mixed up which probably didn't help his handler track where the hell he was talking about...dammit....
Anyone know much about Millitary ranks?
These guys were a Lieutenant Colonel and a Major

I don't think the A10 carries bombs, it's cannons tear apart armour easy enough at 3,900 armour piercing rounds a minute (65 rounds a second) and a large ammo capacity.

It can carry ECM and air-to-air but I'm not sure they carry bombs or ordinance like that as they don't need it and it's not what they are designed for.

They are meant to be low altitude close air support and weapons platforms (or something like that)

And I still don't know how they ID'd scimitars as flat bed trucks....

Originally Posted by PsychoCannon

OK so POPOV 36 can't even tell his right from his left and keeps getting East/West mixed up which probably didn't help his handler track where the hell he was talking about...dammit....
Anyone know much about Millitary ranks?
These guys were a Lieutenant Colonel and a Major

major and Lieutenant Colonel are both senior ranks...equal to Wing Commander and Squandron Leader in the RAF. These would mean the pilots are old timers with plenty of experience...although not necessarily combat experience.

Sweet baby...and at that level he messes up his left and right several times while doing a slow circle round a target? what does that say about the rest of them....
He is told no hostiles in the area but he's given the wrong direcion over the radio and not even in co-ords but east/west which he goofs up.

Then he asks for Arty fire into the area but goes in without waiting for it?

OK i'm dropping out of this conversation before my head explodes, I have a cousin and a very good friend out there at the moment and this is ****** me off because I want him home in one piece.

[northwind]

Originally Posted by Baph

If I make a mistake, and its serious enough, not only do I risk loosing my job, but there's also the possibility of legal action. That means either being sued, or possibly jail time. I can be prosecuted under the laws of the country that my mistake directly affects. I knew that when I signed the contract.

Yes, but if you communicate through your chain of command and have your legitimate concerns clarified, and then act, you wouldn't expect to be scapegoated would you?

Ally markers aren't the be-all and end-all, the reason being, you can buy orange spray paint from any hardware store and become invincible to air attack. The tags did their job, which was to cause the pilots to query the identity of the targets, and they got a confirmation that they couldn't be friendlies, simple as.

This isn't ww2 here, there's no reason that a controller shouldn't know exactly where friendly units are. If it's a case of US and UK systems not meshing, as it was in the first Gulf War, then that's a problem that's way above the level of pilots and ground callers.

Originally Posted by northwind

This isn't ww2 here, there's no reason that a controller shouldn't know exactly where friendly units are. If it's a case of US and UK systems not meshing, as it was in the first Gulf War, then that's a problem that's way above the level of pilots and ground callers.

That's a bigger problem than you might think

£/$Billions have been spent on just that to date and its ongoing ... here's a buzzword for ya .. 'C4ISTAR' Explained

[northwind]

I was thinking more having someone with 2 computer screens in front of them Or call-and-respond IFF, Icould build you something that'd do that...

Originally Posted by northwind

I was thinking more having someone with 2 computer screens in front of them Or call-and-respond IFF, Icould build you something that'd do that...

So you would want to sit in a tank in a warzone that has a bit of kit that electronically broadcasts "I am a UK tank and positioned right here"????

Dear Mr and Mrs Northwind ... we regret to inform you .....

[northwind]

Do it right, aye... I'd sooner have that than the US guys shooting at me Call and response, ie, plane pings column, column pings back, and vary the activation codes so that it's not realistic for a hostile to do it or to fake the response. Fairly simple to implement...