I think this is justified

[Sid Squid]

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

you cant reasonably argue that violating a right of way is.

There's the point isn't it, early morning no other traffic* - no-ones right of way was compromised.
Why don't we have traffic lights that flash yellow at off peak times, (as many foreign countries do), this turns the junction into a 'no-one has right of way - all give way', then the junction can be used as needed.

This cyclist: May or may not have been a resonable thing to do in the circumstances, we can't judge at a distance, but if there truly was no other traffic and visibility allows the junction to be crossed then why not? This is the sort of issue that requires discretion and reason to be applied, sadly as the body responsible for that is the Police it's never going to happen though.

*If that's true of course.

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by Sid Squid

Why don't we have traffic lights that flash yellow at off peak times, (as many foreign countries do), this turns the junction into a 'no-one has right of way - all give way', then the junction can be used as needed.

Cos we live in a nanny state that gives us no room to use our brains and prefers us to act like automatons, sadly.

[Sid Squid]

Originally Posted by Spiderman

Cos we live in a nanny state that gives us no room to use our brains and prefers us to act like automatons, sadly.

No, really! Well knock me down with a feather - I'd never have guessed.

The HIGHWAY CODE is for the benefit of motorised,pedal and pedestrian and where applicable is used with the appropriate law THIS IS FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL so why differenciate one from another The guy jumped the lights and you and I plus he deserve to be nicked if we breach the law
What do we want? one law for cyclist which could endanger other road users,or one law that applies to all road users

Originally Posted by justmacsv650

The HIGHWAY CODE is for the benefit of motorised,pedal and pedestrian and where applicable is used with the appropriate law THIS IS FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL so why differenciate one from another The guy jumped the lights and you and I plus he deserve to be nicked if we breach the law
What do we want? one law for cyclist which could endanger other road users,or one law that applies to all road users

Come on man.
A cyclist is not posing the same risk as a car is. Or anywhere close to.
Bikes are traveling at ~ 15 mph, and weigh about 15 kilos + rider say, with a very small profile. Cars weigh more, and have a huge profile.

You can not, in any way, say the risks to third parties are similar. They are not.

Agreed just tell him/her not to do it infront of my truck when I have to swerve and hit an kid because of impatience,lack of consideration
Broaden the senario---what if a motorbike had been coming the other way at 100mph,they didn't see it, who is in the wrong?

I have nothing against cyclists but the things they do and get away with astound me

Example-City Rd this morning,lycra clad racing cyclist riding down the middle of the outside lane at 20-25mph holding up the traffic flow and puts his brakes on and slows when a car toots at him and then crosses to the inside and goes round a left hand turn at the lights ON RED

[carelesschucca]

Originally Posted by Sid Squid

Why don't we have traffic lights that flash yellow at off peak times, (as many foreign countries do), this turns the junction into a 'no-one has right of way - all give way', then the junction can be used as needed.

Try Lisbon, its just mental and they run this system, its Lunacy to be honest it just ends up that no one gives way and they all just gun it... Portugal has the highest death rates in Europe on the roads and After my experiences of Lisbon I can understand why!!!