Teaching creationism in science lessons...

Originally Posted by SmudgeK3

yes but by teaching it you would be calling some of your students beliefs lies so maybe they should leave the subject alone or tell every side of the story

Again, you're talking as if science and creationism carry the same weight in an argument. They don't. If that means belittling a few peoples beliefs so be it.

Lets face it, it's not hard to work out what belongs in a science class and what does'nt!
Some people just luuuuv to create an issue.
Anyway I think the mechanics of how santa can fly around the world in one night should be in a science class.

Originally Posted by mac99

Why do false beliefs in this one area get special treatment?

For pretty much every fact you can be taught in school there will be someone that disagrees. In history when they mention Napoleon died in 1821 do they also have to respectfully say "But that's just one theory, there are plenty of people alive today who believe that they are Napoleon"

thats just it you carnt say false beliefs to beleve doesnt have nothing to do with false or true, this discussion has never and will never be solved as our evolution isnt even fact

Originally Posted by SmudgeK3

thats just it you carnt say false beliefs

Yes, I can say false beliefs.
Unless you want to get extremely PoMo and relativistic, then surely you'll admit that there are such things as objective facts. That it is is possible to make statements that are true, and statements that are false.

What odds would you give that any one of the random nutters that think they're Napoleon actually are? 50:50? 0.001? or absolutely none at all.

I went to a church school. We were taught creationism in RE, evolution in Biology. Neither teacher would be drawn into our (mischevious) attempts to ask them which was right. Personally I don't see how any reasonable person could object to this approach, irrespective of whether or not it was a church school. I'm a Christian, but I wouldn't want creationism taught in a science class, any more than I would want evolution taugh in an RE class.

Originally Posted by SmudgeK3

what about scientology does that not have anything to do with science

Nothing

Scientology is complete fiction transformed into a cult for the purposes of making quite a significant ammount of money.

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

i would try to explain it, but i reckon wikipedia does a much better job than i ever could:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory

Basically a scientific theory must account for all previous experimental evidence and observations, it must be able to be tested, and also be able to predict future observations

A hypothesis is probably something closer to the general definition of theory, as it is something logically assumed, but not experimentally confirmed

Ok, I couldnt think of any other definition of theory . I always think along the lines of evidence based and naively hope all theories are evidence based . Hence I have never thought of creationsism as a theory as theres no evidence AFAIK .

Originally Posted by Zombie Jesus

Nothing

Scientology is complete fiction transformed into a cult for the purposes of making quite a significant ammount of money.

yeah and they are a bunch of Fing wierdo's

Clearly there will be problems fitting creationism into the science ciricluum.
Theres not much time left now, what with the latest facts about the flat earth, the newly revealed geocentric facts of the universe, and of course they have to spend hours learning about the new science of tealeafology.

Things were simpler in my day, we only had to learn the old faiy stories about relativity.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

Disagree. Kids, stupid or not, are impressionable. They won't question, they'll just adopt the opinion of the person who presses their view the hardest.

Nah, I was always the awkward little bugger more likely to do exactly the opposite.
Impressionable yes, but give people some credit, you don't have to be old and wise to question any theory (in any sense of the word) or generally accepted idea.