Couldn't believe what was happening

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Problem with this is you're inviting prosecution on yourself.

Do unto others before they do unto you, then f#ck off before the police arrive.

I believe if the youth is making an attempt to take your keys (which is attempted theft of a motor vehicle) you're within your rights to ward off the criminal within reason, and if he ends up with a broken arm then that's what the little **** deserves.

"I struck his arm as he was trying to grab my keys, rode off and reported the incident straight away."

Sounds much nicer than

"yo dawg i tried to take diz doodz keys...yeh..hehe...and eh...yah my homie archie was like "yeh bruh we should jack this fool up in here" and i was like yeh so i tried to jack this doodz keys but he hitted me and i cry "

[yorkie_chris]

I don't trust the police that much.

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by Red Herring

It's all very well coming up with ideas of what we would all have done but it's an entirely different matter when it happens to you completely by surprise.

+1 on that - I was on the floor under my bike before I really knew what was happening

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

It's really hard to have a decent swing while sat on a bike, 60% of power comes from hip movement, which you can't do sat down!

Too right, however the right approach....

Originally Posted by PsychoCannon

There's a market here for self-defence for bikers, Bike-Fu?
we'd need to capture some chavs for practice though =p.

Might lead to something like this...

Originally Posted by -Ralph-

If somebody has a go while your sat on the bike, feet down and legs wide to stabilise the bike, grab them by the lapels (nobody has worn lapels since the sixties but you know what I mean, neck of t'shirt, whatever), lean back from the waist with them at arms length, then pull them in towards you as hard and fast as you can, headbutting with your lid. It will stun them enough to give you time to ride away.

I studied Aikido for a while and part of that teaches you to fight while seated so you learn a whole new way that only uses your upper body. Headbutts and throws are the main ingredients tbh.....but you know what, the couple of times i've got into scrapes on the bike the training has ended up out the window and i've got off the bike to deal with the problem.

Learing to kick your sidestand down very quickly is a great thing too.

But at the end of the day i agrree with all the comments of DONT GET IN A SCRAP if you can avioid it, its just not worth it in the long run sxdly, even tho some of these little bolox deserve nothing more than an extecned bout of having someone get medevil on their asses!

sorry to hear about that mate, F***ing chavs tbh unlike you i wouldn't of kept my carm i would of lashed out big time,


us bikers need to do what americans do and arm ourselves! that will show em

Originally Posted by -Ralph-

It will stun them enough to give you time to ride away.

I'm not suggesting getting into a scrap with them either. It's a defensive move, not offensive. Just like driving the butt of your hand into an attackers nose to give you a few seconds to run away while his eyes are still streaming.

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by -Ralph-

I'm not suggesting getting into a scrap with them either. It's a defensive move, not offensive. Just like driving the butt of your hand into an attackers nose to give you a few seconds to run away while his eyes are still streaming.

Sorry Ralph, i wasn't suggesting you were saying "FIGHT, FIGHT!!!" but some of the others definately were. What you suggest is absolutely the best of both worlds imho. Quick distraction blow and get the hell out of there. My old sensei would be proud of you

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

I don't trust the police that much.

Yeh it's hard to trust a bunch of basically communists!

You call them cause your bike gets nicked, knowing them IF they find it they'll do you for a small plate and loud exhaust!

Originally Posted by Spiderman

Sorry Ralph

No worries at all , I wasn't replying to your post in particular.

A few folk have slated any form of violent action, or said the chavs might have knives, etc, but as you say sometimes a defensive blow is the safest way out.

[yorkie_chris]

If it did come to it and you'd given them a bit of a kicking then it's important to be certain that you were certain they were attempting to get you off the bike so they could do you serious bodily harm, and you only acted because you were left with no other option, and you used force which at the time you believed was the minimum amount you could have to prevent them doing you harm. So don't kick an unconscious one in the face... but, if one on the floor was trying to get up while reaching for something in his pocket, that could be seen as reasonable. After all, he was still trying to get to you while reaching for a weapon.
Most importantly if they do nick you, don't make a statement straight away, take your time, think about things carefully and talk to your brief about how best to word things to get the truth across with the minimum chance of interpreting against you. You were in fear for your life.

Getting f#cked over for defending your property is worse than the theft or the kicking itself. And they will try it, the law is the second enemy.