Unmarked Police motorcycles

Originally Posted by Gatso

Happened to my missus (a couple of years ago I admit) coming home on here own from her parents about 11pm on country lanes. A fast car came up quickly behind her then dropped back, before charging up to her again very close and dropping back again.
They did this for about ten minutes before blasting round her.

I'm sure it was because she was in the Supra and they thought it would be an easy pull.
She was really upset when she got home as she didn't know they were police until they passed - I was livid !

I know it was only one or two guys, but I lost a lot of respect for the police that night.

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I had something similar to this happen a few years ago. Cops in an unmarked Ford Sierra me in my Kev'd up Astra 1.3 Merit. They were following me and when I switched lanes, did the same, when I changed back the didn't but when I got stopped at the lights, they sat back so I couldn't see them. I was not sure if it was Police or trouble, so I gunned it from the lights and proceeded to have them chase me for, about 5 or more miles, at speeds of over a ton in 50's, 40's and 30's. Managed to loose them at a twisty bit, only for them to catch up at some lights.

In the end, they got a marked car in to pull me but could do fark all, as I feared for my safety. If they hadn't acted the way they had, I never would have gunned it.

Originally Posted by lugubrioustide

on a similar note if you are in the plymouth south hams area be on the lookout for a very dark blue to black estate volvo and a dark blue bmw also estate, they are unmarked cars, the passenger side has two wing mirrors which is a clue but if they are close enough for you to see that it may well be too late!

The Blue one stays on the A38 toward Exeter and the Grey BMW, loves to hang around deep lane/Lee Mill areas. He's the one that sent me on my RiDE cousre!!

Originally Posted by phil24_7

I had something similar to this happen a few years ago. Cops in an unmarked Ford Sierra me in my Kev'd up Astra 1.3 Merit. They were following me and when I switched lanes, did the same, when I changed back the didn't but when I got stopped at the lights, they sat back so I couldn't see them. I was not sure if it was Police or trouble, so I gunned it from the lights and proceeded to have them chase me for, about 5 or more miles, at speeds of over a ton in 50's, 40's and 30's. Managed to loose them at a twisty bit, only for them to catch up at some lights.

In the end, they got a marked car in to pull me but could do fark all, as I feared for my safety. If they hadn't acted the way they had, I never would have gunned it.

Sorry but if you "feared for yor safety" why didnt you just pull over, or alternatively drive to a police staion or a highly populated area at the speed lmit? surely you were putting yourself and others in far more danger at over a ton in 30's.

Originally Posted by Kilted Ginger

Sorry but if you "feared for yor safety" why didnt you just pull over, or alternatively drive to a police staion or a highly populated area at the speed lmit? surely you were putting yourself and others in far more danger at over a ton in 30's.

Ha ha... Pull over for 3 big blokes in a busted up Sierra? Your joking right?? It just so happened that I was heading towards a Police station (not intentionally) but my first thought was to get away from them as I had 2 girls in the car. It was 11 at night on a Sunday so not much around to be fair, no highly populated areas and not much traffic on the road, running was the safest option for me. It was also dual carriage type roads all the way, just in 50, 40 and 30 limits.

Had I been with my mates rather than girls, then I fear the outcome may have been different. I most probably, would have stopped and jumped out, with whatever sporting equipment I had with me!

I hasten to add this was a fair few years ago, nowadays, with the proliferation of mobiles, I'd call the police or my mates (depending on time of day and where I was) and deal with it.

Is it true that they still have to follow you for at least a mile before they can pull you and nick you for your offence?

Because i know that police are trained for pursuits and how to carry them out safely but when they are unmarked and have no blues or twos going, in an unmarked or on an unmarked vechile might this be a bit dangerous, especially on a bike as you know what a lot of car drivers are like.

This isnt a dig at the police as i may become one and it would be hypocritical of me, its just the question of do some pressure you into breaking the law and do others not

Originally Posted by Paul the 6th

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Holdup a unmarked vehicle with no emergency lighting will be unlikely to try stopping you, they are more likely follow you until they can get a marked unit to stop you..

To mirror most other posts, I'd be gutted if I got done but I'd only have my self to blame. It'd certianly make me think twice about playing with any other bikes which appear in my mirrors.

Interestingly may I ask what would be the take on if a bike appeared in your mirror which you let past. Then when it continued on its way you decided to play keep up only for it to turn out to be an officer. Could you get done then? Just a thought considering they have no right to go faster than the legal limit unless doing some crime fighting magic so if they were to speed and you were to follow they'd be as guilty as you surely.

Originally Posted by leedsmatt7

Interestingly may I ask what would be the take on if a bike appeared in your mirror which you let past. Then when it continued on its way you decided to play keep up only for it to turn out to be an officer. Could you get done then? Just a thought considering they have no right to go faster than the legal limit unless doing some crime fighting magic so if they were to speed and you were to follow they'd be as guilty as you surely.

I have heard, but this is only hearsay, so don't go experimenting with it, that a copper can't do you if he is also breaking the law at the same time. So by that theory you could follow and even overtake that copper. Wouldn't like to test the theory out though.

Maybe one of our boys in blue can clarify.

Even if that is true, if you can't prove that they goaded you into speeding, how will you prove that they were speeding when following them?

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Originally Posted by Gatso

Happened to my missus (a couple of years ago I admit)

I had similar years ago as well.

Marked car would come racing up behind me then sit right on the bootlid and then drop back, did it about 3 or 4 times and I got fedup with it, and drove slower and slower and slower till the point I was doing 20mph in a NSL ( 60 limit ) I think they got the message in the end and overtook me.

I'm very wary of being caught quickly by another biker, I do as others do and move left and wave them past. Then I can look at there riding or a bike before deciding if I want to play or not.

I dont get why you'd want to ride fast with another rider who is a complete stranger, whose riding you dont know they could be a demon and you'd get sucked into riding faster and faster or they could be a complete muppet who is about to have a huge accident and if they are like that I'd rather keep out of their way...