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Old 26-10-18, 07:48 AM   #6511
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Hope they get you sorted soon Chris. Sounds like it's getting a bit tedious hanging around waiting!
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Old 26-10-18, 07:55 AM   #6512
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Gotta be better than having to turn the existing pair inside out!
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Old 26-10-18, 07:57 AM   #6513
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uh oh, just when I thought I was free and clear from the prostate scare, I receive a call from the hospital because they have spotted something "incidental" on my MRI in my colon which will require a sigmoidoscopy; a camera up my bum.

Since it's a sigmoidoscopy not a colonoscopy I will be awake and, if like America, given the opportunity to watch (err, no thanks).

Should I be worried? My Mum died of colon cancer...
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Old 26-10-18, 08:39 AM   #6514
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Gotta be better than having to turn the existing pair inside out!
Or throwing them at the wall and seeing if they stick

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Old 26-10-18, 09:09 AM   #6515
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What tosh.
So, you run a small business churning widgets. You created this company from an idea you had at the kitchen table. You know how to churn widgets.
The day arrives when you need someone to run your website, your social media, to do your graphic design, to write your user manuals to be your finance director etc.
You can't employ them because you don't know how to do their job.
Stupid argument. You employ people BECAUSE you can't do their job.

Thanks for dissing how I got to my job. I don't know anyone who has the skills to do all the jobs I have to manage people doing. One moment it might be painting a wall (I could do that poorly), electrical installation, replacing an industrial direct fitted gas burner, installing and maintaining office air conditioning, road surfacing, marble floor laying, signage design, choosing furniture or a coffee machine, space planning or financial forecasting.

Showing an employee that you could do the job better only does the employee you don't trust them. Choose the employees for talks you can't do, recruit for your weaknesses and then show trust and care.
Except we were not discussing making widgets, we were talking about running trains and police. Of course you employ experts to run your website ( but under the supervision of someone who knows what you are selling and what your market is - otherwise you will end up with a glitzy technically brilliant website that does not do what you want - always happens when you leave a nerd unsupervised ). The ability for managers with no experience of day to day policing ( or running railways ) while simultaneously dealing with disruptive shift work and the public telling the people who are risking their lives how to behave and carry out their duties is a recipe for disaster. Every 'fast track manager' should spend at least 12 months learning the basics of the system, just like the health service - you don't get to be a senior doctor without being a junior doctor and dealing with all the **** and long hours that entails.
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Old 26-10-18, 09:56 AM   #6516
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yup far too many "Yosser Hughes" university leavers who cant get a job in their own field so they end up blagging their way in but cant do the job properly which in turn disrupts the running of a company.
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Old 26-10-18, 10:33 AM   #6517
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I once worked in a brand new chemical plant which was the most advance multi product plant in the western world when built. Our manifold room had steel sheet floors as the young designers not having experience of plant operators didn't realise the lads would use an electric pallet truck. So the floor quickly bowed between the support girders. The drains of course were attached to the upright steelwork. so we had a series of puddles. I convinced one young Chemical Engineer (She was with us to oversee a new product) that this was a new design philosophy to help with containment of spillages.

During the first batch of the series we were oxidising a forerunner using oxygen gas being fed into the bottom run off valve of the vessel. The reactants had been dissolved in boiling pure acetic acid. A few of us can asked about this at the hasop and hasan meetings and were told that it would not be a problem and had not caused any issues in the pilot plant (pilot plant 10 lt reaction vessel, plant 10000 Lt reaction vessel). It was night shift when it blocked up and we had a visiting PHD level chemist with us from the pilot plant, (he was very good btw but hadn't been involved with us up to that point) so during the discussions we said "thought there were no problems" he told us they disconnected their reactor turned it upside down and gave it a bit of a shake. We eventually got it clear safely (several times) and the second batch had a dip pipe fitted and it didn't happen again.

This was the first of six batches for clinical trials. We had to get 3 consecutive batches within every limit though out in order to proceed. We got batches 3,4 and 5 bang on.

Just to say, our Chemists and Chemical Engineers were the vast majority of the time very very good.
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Old 26-10-18, 12:29 PM   #6518
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Indeed and it's glorious!

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Or throwing them at the wall and seeing if they stick

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my heart rate just spiked somewhat upon reading that, never tried that before, might give it a go if I don't get any visitors today to keep me occupied....
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Old 26-10-18, 05:04 PM   #6519
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I have no gripes today as I've had the day off. Fingers or even gingers (as my auto typing just suggested) crossed for those of you that need it. Good luck.
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