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Old 12-11-07, 10:58 AM   #61
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They pulled everyone off the track at 10:50 at Cadwell Yesterday to observe the silence, although they never announced over the tannoy when it started and when it finished, and with everybodys clock obviously being slightly out no one was to sure when to observe the silence....was a shame really.
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Old 12-11-07, 03:13 PM   #62
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You missed my point... they didnt come here seeking "freedom" or anything like that they made a simple choice of where they belived was, at the time, best for education.

If this country was "free" and had rubish education we would have gone elsewhere.

if this country wasnt "free" and had rubish education we would have gone elsewhere.

The fcat is that this all happended way before i was born and a choice was made by my parents.

There are plenty of things i dont like regarding the UK thank you...one of them being small minded people who feel i, and that lady in the gym, should "comply" even if i have very good reasons for not choosing to do so.
I'm at a loss as to how you can claim that what you've gotten out of the UK is somehow less valuble because you could have gotten it elsewhere.

Just makes you sound like the kind of ungreatful immigrant that the BNP likes to portray.
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Old 12-11-07, 03:37 PM   #63
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If this country was "free" and had rubish education we would have gone elsewhere.

if this country wasnt "free" and had rubish education we would have gone elsewhere.
what about if the country wasn't 'free' yet had a great education system?

However, back to the point of the thread, IMO each to their own.
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Old 12-11-07, 03:41 PM   #64
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Obviously it was a 'rubish' education system
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Old 12-11-07, 09:48 PM   #65
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Obviously it was a 'rubish' education system
must have been, going by the poor spelling, in the many posts on this thread.
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Old 12-11-07, 10:12 PM   #66
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must have been, going by the poor spelling, in the many posts on this thread.
Your grammar is atrocious

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because he has been in the army (&fought for it)does not give anyone the right to ignore this mark of respect
If it's forced on you, it's not a mark of respect. But my grandad would have told you that if he fought for anything, he fought for freedom for his country and his family, and that forcing people to observe a minute's silence they didn't believe in is the sort of thing that "the other feller" was fighting for, and that he fought against.

My uncle, on the other hand, was more offended by people who paid lip service to the minute's silence than by people who ignored it entirely. Standing there thinking about your shopping list in silence for a minute isn't respectful, it's blatant hypocrisy.

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It all seems a bit of "I kept quite for a couple of minutes so I've done my bit" and then everyone carries on again without a second thought. I've seen them all do it at work. Mid joke, two minute silence, finish joke as though the two minutes never happened.
Couldn't agree more. You show respect by your actions and words the rest of the year, not by keeping quiet for 2 minutes then forgetting about it.
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Old 12-11-07, 10:43 PM   #67
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Northy, isn't the point of the 2 mins that it's a focus for everyone's attention at the same time?
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That's supposed to be the point, aye... But like Bigape I reckon a lot of folk are just observing the forms, and missing the point, the silence shouldn't just be about not talking, it's supposed to be a moment of reflection and consideration too. I don;t really have a strong opinion on it either way, so I'm being led a wee bit by the old folks I suppose. But I do definately feel that forcing people into it devalues the whole thing- it's like the difference between a real standing ovation and a stage managed one, I'd sooner see 10 genuine demonstrations of respect than 1000 fake ones myself.
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