Should all police carry guns?

Originally Posted by Spiderman

its good to hear so many serving boys n girls dont want to be routinely armed.

I have heard more cops say no to guns than yes tbh, they dont want the responsibility and quite rightly so.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by simesb

That just makes it might versus right.

Chairman Mao would probably agree, and so would Comrade Brown.

So imagine NuLabour "decide" that the terrorist "threat" is so great that they will be delaying the elections this year and "temporarily" suspending the right to a free press and freedom of assembly (well f*ck me they already did the 2nd one!).

What are we going to do about it? Sod all. Unarmed you are a subject. Petrol bombs and colourful language don't work very well.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

What are we going to do about it? Sod all. Unarmed you are a subject. Petrol bombs and colourful language don't work very well.

Armed or unarmed, you are still a subject of Her Majesty.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

So imagine NuLabour "decide" that the terrorist "threat" is so great that they will be delaying the elections this year and "temporarily" suspending the right to a free press and freedom of assembly (well f*ck me they already did the 2nd one!).

Yeah, so get off your butt and vote when the chance arrives; and without the military on the side of the government (as opposed to their political pawn) the chance will come. If everybody thinks one party is as bad as the other - form one that appeals to the common man.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by simesb

Armed or unarmed, you are still a subject of Her Majesty.

Funny somewhere after the last question of the powers of the monarchy the bill of rights was written which entitled you to keep arms for your own defense.
Unfortunately the bit after that "as allowed by law" renders it powerless.

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by simesb

Yeah, so get off your butt and vote when the chance arrives; and without the military on the side of the government (as opposed to their political pawn) the chance will come. If everybody thinks one party is as bad as the other - form one that appeals to the common man.

Voting? Pah, dont make me laugh. This type of a farce of "democracy" is a joke. You NEVER vote for a party that appeals to you, you simply vote against the party that spent years being as corrupt as the others you voted them in to get rid of in the first place.

God if Screaming Lord Sutch and his Monster Raving Loony Party were still about he'd be getting the majority of votes nowdays by the millions like me who are sick of the major parties all being the same self serving, money grabbing corrupt gits in nice suits.

Originally Posted by Spiderman

Voting? Pah, dont make me laugh. This type of a farce of "democracy" is a joke. You NEVER vote for a party that appeals to you, you simply vote against the party that spent years being as corrupt as the others you voted them in to get rid of in the first place.

God if Screaming Lord Sutch and his Monster Raving Loony Party were still about he'd be getting the majority of votes nowdays by the millions like me who are sick of the major parties all being the same self serving, money grabbing corrupt gits in nice suits.

Instead of whingeing, do something to garner the votes of the "millions like you" - you seem to know what they want.

Still no to guns BTW.

[Bibio]

unlike America and other country's the uk does not really have any dangerous animals (apart from the natives)that warrant carrying a gun.

i for 1 would be applauded at the British bobby caring guns, we have survived a couple of hundred years the way we are, why would we want some bloody gun company raping the British tax payer fro even more money.

'stop or i'll shout stop again' we are a tiny little island with not to big a crime rate despite what the media are telling us, so why do the police force need guns. they do a perfectly adequate job so far as i can see. only country's with police who have small manhoods need guns to make up for their inadequacies. i think the uk is one of only a handful of places that the police dont carry guns, if not the only. which puts the great in britain.

I want my kids to grow up feeling that the police are approachable, if my daughter thought the police were armed she wouldnt go within a mile of them.

I think it would be nice if all police were given at least basic firearms training and they had access to them if the situation arose that they needed to use them. More firearms and dog units would be great IMO. But I think that the public should be allowed to own/carry guns for self/home defence. I personally would love to be allowed to own a pistol to use at shooting ranges and the like. If the needed arose in the future it would make any possible invasion a bit more difficult as well. To me whether a copper is carrying a gun makes no difference to whether i would be bothered about approaching them, I've lived around guns most of my life and being not far from sellafield and working there for a while it was nice to see the shiny toys that the CNC have.

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by simesb

Instead of whingeing, do something to garner the votes of the "millions like you" - you seem to know what they want.

Still no to guns BTW.

Well short of setting up my own political party what do you suggest i do?

Oh and i'm not whingeing, thats what children and morons do, i'm simply stating an obvious fact so please dont feel you have earnt the right to talk down to me.
Why do you think in the last few elections there has been such low numbers turning out to vote?
Why do you think the BNP are getting votes in regional elections?
Cos the masses are sick of this system of farce of a democracy.

And sadly i dont know enough big wigs or rich industrialists who will give me millions to put together a political party. After all its not the politicians who put the party together but the money men who front up the cash.

So, at least we agree on one thing, no to guns, can we put our heads together and come up with how we can make a real change to how politics works i wonder?