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Old 14-07-06, 05:27 PM   #61
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harsh... I mean, we all do stupid things. Me especially whenIwas younger. I was lucky. and hopfully will stay being lucky.

We just have to try to stop doing stupic things.

Seeing some biker driving along grand, and then splattered all over the shop a secong later is good as a wake up call. Very very very memorable images and noises.
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Old 14-07-06, 06:21 PM   #62
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harsh... I mean, we all do stupid things. Me especially whenIwas younger. I was lucky. and hopfully will stay being lucky.

We just have to try to stop doing stupic things.

Seeing some biker driving along grand, and then splattered all over the shop a secong later is good as a wake up call. Very very very memorable images and noises.
Yep we do. Though imho its better some bluntness from those of us whove learnt the hard way and been lucky to perhaps instil a question in someones mind of whether its a good idea to be 50mph+ above surrounding traffic or to perhaps stop and think if they have really anticipated just about every possibly stupid manouver surrounding vehicles can do, or every possible hazzard.

If it slows someone down and that buys them time to avoid hazzards then great.
Ive said it before but to put it in ultrablunt terms:

70 mph is 100 ft per second roughly. In that split second you have travelled 100 ft. Thats a very long way in a short time to spot any junctions and approaching hazzards and be able to react quick enough and then be able to stop. [what is the stopping distance for a bike at 70?? Is it the same as a car??] Bearing in mind a driver could look for a split second when you could be 110 feet away and go to manouver when suddenly you are 10 feet away.

Personally, I always ride with several things in mind.

1. Can I stop if something happens. If no, then Im too close or too fast and I adjust riding accordingly.
2. Can I see far enough ahead to anticipate things. If no, then I slow down.
3. Have I anticipated everything that can possibly go wrong? I then run through scenarios, are there junctions, are there hazzards I cant see, etc etc
4. If Ive anticipated most things, do I have an escape route if it happens. eg if a car veers out to the right, do I go round it or to the left of it. And when youre planning decide in advance - that will help in those split seconds when you have to take evasive action.
5. Have I got complacent? Riding the same roads frequently can make you forget to add things into your risk assessment. If I feel I am, I slow down before something happens. This is the one I frequently fail on though - roads you know well it does happen.
6. Is my speed appropriate? If not, I slow down.

The above goes someway to why I was at the back with Ed on AR06. I simply enjoy being on the bike and dont really feel the need for speed. I speed where I am comfortable with it now - open roads which I know very very well and have a pretty shrewd idea of hazzards on the road [with a check on number 5 going on as thats my main failing on roads I know very well ]
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Old 14-07-06, 06:29 PM   #63
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... thing is, essentially, my point is I dont want people plowing into cars.

Red ones had posted up the bad cop post.
I attempted to post the good cop post up after.

Me posting up "harsh", followed by saying the exact same thing as everyone else says, ie, slow down a bit, might work.

Might not.

Having washed person and bits of bike of the back of a car makes me not picky about how the message gets across, as long as it dos.
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Old 14-07-06, 07:04 PM   #64
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For reflection. This guy was not hanging about but equally he wasnt really anticipating everything that could happen especially that he could be in someones blind spot. If you look at the video, the car was indicating and was pulling out as he was committed to going past but going too fast to react to it.

Probably not dial up friendly though.

http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.ph...le=wipeout.wmv
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Old 14-07-06, 07:58 PM   #65
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Lots and lots of good advice in this thread.

Where does one purchae a copy of "Road Craft" sounds like its worth reading.
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Old 14-07-06, 08:04 PM   #66
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I found a copy in waterstones but it was cheaper on amazon.
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Old 14-07-06, 08:06 PM   #67
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OK cool thank you.
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Old 14-07-06, 08:20 PM   #68
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i got mine off amazon, read it before my test but gonna read it again soon, keep getting tense while riding for some reason
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Old 14-07-06, 09:15 PM   #69
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I found a copy in waterstones but it was cheaper on amazon.
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It is the same price from WHSmith, only if you order it on line for delivery to your local store you do not pay postage!
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